B Shantanu

Political Activist, Blogger, Advisor to start-ups, Seed investor. One time VC and ex-Diplomat. Failed mushroom farmer; ex Radio Jockey. Currently involved in Reclaiming India - One Step at a Time.

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  1. Every year Bharat should add more troops to its army and state police on this day. New experiments and security device announcements should be made on this day by Bharat Sarkar.
    This will send a strong signal to terrorist nations that we have changed and are ready to tackle any adversaries.

    Jai Hind!

  2. Dirt Digger says:

    We should strike back at Pakistan and at the terrorist camps. Show them that if they mess with us, they will pay.
    The pacifist attitude is simply ridiculous. The sniveling leadership of MMS with all talk no action, begging Pak for action shows the bankruptcy of our leadership.

  3. Chandra says:

    We need to get away from hartal and protest culture. Terrorists attack us and we cause more disruption and possible destruction to observe their actions? That shouldn’t even be an option.

  4. vinod says:

    we just need to put an end to this… there seems to be no end to the dialogue, debate & discussion… i challenge that 20 years from now the situation will be the same… not for nothing they said “actions speak louder than words”… let us ACT. AND NOW!!!

  5. PS says:

    I vote for 1 and Other:
    Other: Each one of us should be more vigilant. Support security agencies by providing info if sense anything suspicious happens around us..

    Thanks,

  6. Vikram says:

    Secure the borders as tight as possible from all sides and also the maritime security. Leave the security related aspects/planning completely to the military / defence forces. They will do a much better job professionally without any vested interested or prejudices. Let the Govt be busy with its own internal haggling and petty politics. I dont expect much from the current and future Congress governments at all – it’s about all talk and no action since its inception in 1947. If nothing, at least people will be secure from external threats for a start…

  7. Arjun says:

    *** COMMENT EDITED ***

    Lets face it with the Indian Governments behaviour over this whole issue then sooner or later there will be another massive terrorist attack..India has a total weak image around the world which only encourages countries like pakistan to do what they want when they want when knowing very well that Indians will be only lighting candles in response while the Indian PM would be out of country on the first 26/11 anniversary.

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  8. Arjun says:

    “The pacifist attitude is simply ridiculous. The sniveling leadership of MMS with all talk no action, begging Pak for action shows the bankruptcy of our leadership.”

    Yeh but this situation has been going since independence and even when the BJP got in power you had Vajpayee going to Pakistan on peace bus with bangra dancers at the front while the pakis were planning kargil .So even when the Indian army were winning kargil battle the BJP allowed a safe passage to let the Pakistanis escape.Instead the army should have crossed the LOC and taken as much land as possible back to India..Over 500 Indian soldiers died for what ? I with some others then had raised about about 7000 thousands pounds for the Indian soldiers widows and children fund .So I had letters from some of the soldiers who fought at kargil who wrote some of the horrors they had to go through..One soldier had both his legs blown off and had to crawl down nearly 7 miles to make it to camp..And theres many other stories like that.Since then how more soldiers have died on border or have been badly injured ? Hundreds if not thousands..So the BJP or Congress in power is not going to make any difference unless this weak mentality changes..

    The truth is that Indians are always wanting desperately to be liked by everyone but it only has encouraged people to despise and take them for a ride..Yeh be nice but also you can use the fist now and then .Its Only when people fear you that you get respect from even the people who hate you..

  9. Arjun,
    “The truth is that Indians are always wanting desperately to be liked by everyone but it only has encouraged people to despise and take them for a ride”

    I completely agree. Bharatiya Citizens have become numb towards treacherous neighbours while doing the circus to maintain the goody goody attitude.
    And that is indeed a main reason why our government is also numb. Because in democracy “यथा प्रजा तथा राजा”

    Jai Hind

  10. B Shantanu says:

    Thanks all for the comments…We’re hoping to discuss this and some related issues today evening when we gather to remember the fallen.

    More on this later.

  11. Arjun says:

    31-crore ?

    He must be staying in a penthouse at the Taj or the Oberoi ..

  12. Indian says:

    I heart echoes with A Bachhan’s and Prasoon Joshi’s poem to mark 26/11.

    DIDN’T FORGIVE DIDN’T FORGET. Not this time.

  13. K. Harapriya says:

    Is it possible to have security only by focusing on protecting our borders when there are approximately 30 million illegal immigrants (mostly from Bangladesh) within our borders?

  14. Arjun says:

    Something to think about and a grim reality for India.

    Drift prevails a year after 26/11

    http://news.rediff.com/column/2009/nov/26/anniversary-26-11-harsh-pant-on-india-a-year-after-the-mumbai-attacks.htm

  15. Arjun says:

    @Shantanu, The writer of the above article is usually based at kings college..Maybe Amitabh and You could get him for some future debate on Indian security..Just a suggestion…

  16. Surekha says:

    You asked in your blog, How Should India Remember 26/11 ?

    In the wake of the usual flurry of angry activity at the time of a terrible national calamity, followed by gradually increasing indolence and lackadaisical action by the Government ane the people, it is my staunch belief that there is no better way to remember the hateful night of 26/11 and the following 60 hours, than every aware Indian becoming more duty-bound and responsible for India. What is pragmatic about constantly blaming politicians and systems ?.
    Not only is the ineptitude of taking quick and deterrant action by Government agencies due to lack of sharp systems in place, but also, one must agree, due to the common Indian not being aware of, and not demanding such action- being too entrenched in the destiny theory.
    The day the common indian becomes more aware of protecting his country, and works for it by getting educated, by getting employed rather than whiling his time away, and gets down to working with his hands, India will be safer. For this stage to be reached it is the responsibility of the aware Indian, besides of course the Government, to spread education, work for health and welfare of the community in whatever manner he can, and bring the countrymen to the level of understanding where the Governmernt cannot take them for granted.
    In fact the HRD Ministry and GOI, and every private organisation too shd make some amount of ‘service to country’ compulsory when Indians will need to educate, help in health and welfare, and generally make the country more aware, where loose security systems and corrupt political administration will not be tolerated.
    India needs to be stronger as a people, only then will systems be in place.
    In India today there are too many educated talkers- and most of them blaming the Government or a political party. Of what use is that ? Instead one needs to think and find what method can be introduced in the country when people look upon themselves as stakeholders of their country’s security and well-being- and not just hang it all on the Government.

    I did not know where to post this- hence I’m writing here, though I have shared it briefly on Facebook. if you think it fit, you may kindly post it as a ‘comment’ on your blog- for i do feel the above very strongly, but am as interested in getting other Indians’ views on it too.

  17. Dirt Digger says:

    @Arjun,
    Agree that the BJP has been equally incompetent. Its not a question of BJP vs. congress, but a question of holding the current Government to accountability.
    You cannot go and ask the ghost of Indira Gandhi why she let Pak off the hook in the 72 war!
    “Yeh be nice but also you can use the fist now and then”,
    easy for you to make that statement. But who will do that? Its the Government’s responsibility to do that which is exactly what I was asking in the first place 😉

  18. Arjun says:

    “easy for you to make that statement”

    Yeh it easy for me to make that statement because within context of my life thats how I live but if you’re waiting from the present day Indian Government then you can forget that.Thats why the BJP should have shown the alternative instead of becoming an imitation of the congress..Now its only for the people themselves to push for the alternative

  19. B Shantanu says:

    All: Thanks for the comments…

    @Sandeep: Interesting suggestion

    @ DD: Agree

    @ Chandra: I’d included that option deliberately. I agree with your sentiments.

    @ Vinod: Agree 100%: let us ACT. AND NOW!!!

    @ PS: Good thought: Each one of us should be more vigilant. Support security agencies by providing info if sense anything suspicious happens around us..

    @ @ Vikram: I dont expect much from the current and future Congress governments at all Unfortunately your fears may well turn out to be true.

    @ Arjun: If you cannot be respectful in your language, at least don’t be insulting. Whether you like it or not, Sh Man Mohan Singh is the Prime Minister chosen by a party that has got the mandate from voters. If you are so upset, perhaps you should consider joining active politics in India yourself (I am aware tha you may not be an Indian citizen but that does not mean that you can unsult India’s democratically elected leaders).

    @ Indian: A Bachhan’s and Prasoon Joshi’s poem to mark 26/11 ; Any link?

    @ Harapriya: Is it possible to have security only by focusing on protecting our borders when there are approximately 30 million illegal immigrants (mostly from Bangladesh) within our borders?: Excellent point and one that sadly gets ignored in most discussions on internal security.

    @ Surekha: it is my staunch belief that there is no better way to remember the hateful night of 26/11 and the following 60 hours, than every aware Indian becoming more duty-bound and responsible for India. What is pragmatic about constantly blaming politicians and systems ?

    I agree with this. Please do read this post: In defense of MMS, Shivraj Patil and others

    @ Arjun: Thanks for the tip at #16. I will try and get in touch with Sh Pant.

    As for your other points, I am on DD’s side…The elected government is not fulfiling its responsibilities and needs to be made accountable.

    There is – at the moment – no prospect of change in the government (at least by a democratic process). So the chouce is either to shut up – or to bring pressure on the existing dispensation – which is what DD is suggesting.

  20. Indian says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3rZmCw_BPU&feature=player_embedded

    Hi Shantanu

    Above is the link which you ask for. I find it very appropriate because I felt the same way on 26/11 this year.

  21. Arjun says:

    “if you cannot be respectful in your language, at least don’t be insulting. Whether you like it or not, Sh Man Mohan Singh is the Prime Minister chosen by a party that has got the mandate from voters. If you are so upset, perhaps you should consider joining active politics in India yourself (I am aware tha you may not be an Indian citizen but that does not mean that you can unsult India’s democratically elected leaders).”

    Sorry but I dont have respect for people who dont have respect for the 1st anniversary of 26/11 by not even staying in India at that time..Can you imagine any other world leader doing that.? I dont think so..And staying in the UK with a proper democratic government you can see daily people insulting their political leaders and holding them accountable for the things they do wrong so thats not even an issue far as im concerned .I dont think I insulted the indian PM but made a joke and its my right to do so even if hes from India unless there’s some International law saying you cant do so but then even then i dont care…

    Now why do i have to join active politics in India to do something for India ? Then we might as well not even discuss anything on this blog if you dont live in India if we apply that logic..And I’ve already done political activity for India and Hinduism in this country on all levels and I’m presently doing more so I dont just talk behind a PC but i always walk my talk as well..If Amitabh hasnt already told you of some my work then I can always send you my CV but im not here to prove anything..

  22. B Shantanu says:

    @ Arjun: Pl. read my words carefully. I said, “If you are so upset, perhaps you should consider joining active politics in India“, NOT ” (you) have to join active politics in India to do something for India“.

    And while there is no law to stop you from insulting India’s democratically elected leaders, this is a personal blog and I will not allow that on this forum.

  23. Arjun says:

    @B Shantanu , You’re an Indian citizen than why don’t you go back to India and and get involved politics like your Indian PM was requesting NRIS to come back ?

  24. B Shantanu says:

    @Arjun: Lets try and meet one day so we can discuss getting involved in politics in India…

    …and in case you are still wondering, I already am involved in politics in India.

    As an aside, you may enjoy reading this post

  25. Arjun says:

    @Arjun: Lets try and meet one day so we can discuss getting involved in politics in India

    @Shantanu ,good idea.. I’ll be free after 2 weeks so lets get together also long with Amitabh so we can discuss this further

    thanks

  26. संदीप नारायण शेळके says:

    I found following article on kamyabology. Don’t know its authenticity but thought reproducing it for others to read.
    The Tata Way

    Very much related to 26/11.

    जय हिंद!
    कृषीदेश

  27. KSV SUBRAMANIAN says:

    Bizarre comment by Salman Khan in an interview to a Paki TV :

    http://dailypioneer.com/282575/26/11-over-hyped-says-Salman;-flayed-for-being-anti-national.html

  28. Prashant Serai says:

    @ KSV subramanian

    technically speaking he has not said anything incorrect..

    it is quite possible that salman was asked questions of a kind, that he said these things.. this may not have been a general commentary on the attacks..
    might have been asked something like “what do you think is the reason behind the attacks ?” “was it a case of indian security being poor ?”

    the media is very capable of selective reproduction of such kind..

  29. Sid says:

    @KSV (#28),
    From the article:
    Too much hype has been created around the 26/11 attacks because elite people were targetted. Attacks have happened in trains and small towns too, but no one talked about it so much.
    I felt the same. Boy, this chap is sensible when he is not drunk or do not have a gun in the hand. 🙂

  30. KSV SUBRAMANIAN says:

    @Sid (30): When CST was targeted and many innocents were gunned how many were from the so called elite. Secondly, he has said that it is not Pakistan who has done it. Yes, it is Pakistan which masterminded: the ISI, Army which practically rules this terrorist country. I felt insulted by such insensitive utterances and feel many others like me too.

    He has every right to criticize anybody and anything, for this is a democracy and we cherish individual freedom. But giving an interview to a Paki TV and uttering such nonsense is unpardonable.

  31. Sid says:

    @KSV,
    First, I did not read his original comment, I read the article related to his apology. To avoid the issue, I quoted the sentence I liked.
    Second, how many times do you think CST was mentioned in the newspaper report as opposed to Taj/Oberoi after 26/11? Do we even know when CST station returned to state of normal operation? But there was big news when reconstruction in Taj ended.

    Unfortunately I fail to see anything wrong with elite comment. I did not see that he said only elites were killed. That would be insensitive. If he made comments about Pakistan not being involved, then that is plain wrong and should be protested.