Rays of hope amidst the darkness

Two news-reports from Friday, one heartening and one depressing. Read on:

From “Muslims see Pak army role in attacks” (The Telegraph):

Nearly 19 of 20 Indian Muslims believe what the Prime Minister said this week — that some official agencies in Pakistan were involved in the Mumbai attacks.

A survey has shown that 94 per cent Muslims believe that the Pakistan military and the ISI are hand in glove with the Lashkar-e-Toiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed who, they say, plotted the carnage.

The same percentage trashed suggestions that the November attacks were “revenge for the Gujarat carnage and the Babri Masjid demolition”. Some respondents asked who the terrorists were to take revenge on behalf of Indian Muslims, says the Mumbai-based Trend Research and Analysis Centre (Trac), which did the survey.

…Well over half of those questioned were concerned about youths being brainwashed for jihad through a distorted version of Islam. They said the community must not hesitate to discuss the issue openly, and should do everything possible to save these youths from the clutches of fanatics and extremists.

…Most respondents, however, professed strong faith in Indian secularism, with less than three in 10 saying the Mumbai attacks would affect Hindu-Muslim ties. Nearly nine out of 10 said the Indian legal system provided minorities with enough safeguards.

Here is a chart summarising the responses (click for an enlarged version):

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Now for the “sad” news. From Church, Muslims oppose law panel proposals (The Pioneer)

….the Government is likely to put the report of the (Kerala Law Reforms) Commission, to be presented on January 24, in the freezer in the context of the coming Lok Sabha elections which would force the LDF not to antagonise the religious communities.

The report of the commission, headed by retired Justice VR Krishna Iyer, has made many proposals that could go against the interests of certain communities but at the same time some sections in these communities have been demanding these proposals for quite a long time.

The commission has proposed among reforms almost total abolition of polygamy (among Muslims) and begetting more than two children per couple and permission for euthanasia (suggestions that cause worry to the Catholic Church).

The report also says that the wealth and assets of the Christian churches should be brought under three-tier trusts.

Several sections of Muslims and the Catholic Church have already made it clear that they would not allow the reforms to be implemented.

…Kanthapuram AP Aboobacker Musliar, leader of the Sunni Muslim sect in Kerala which was a supporter of the LDF, said the recommendation to abolish polygamy was against Qur’an and Islam and was intended to ridicule Muslims. He said his outfit would oppose any move to implement the recommendation.

Kerala Nadvat’ul Mujahiddeen (KNM), the organisation of Mujahid Muslims known for their progressive outlook, also spoke against the recommendation on polygamy. KNM leader Hussein Madavoor said total abolition of polygamy could not be accepted. He said what was needed was not a ban but efforts to create awareness.

The KCBC has already made its objections formal through a statement which said that most of the recommendations in the report could not be accepted. Fr Stephen Alathara, spokesman for the KCBC, said in the statement that the Catholic Church would never accept the recommendations for refusing concessions to parents with more than two kids, to permit euthanasia and to do away with the provision making suicide a crime.

Sigh.

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B Shantanu

Political Activist, Blogger, Advisor to start-ups, Seed investor. One time VC and ex-Diplomat. Failed mushroom farmer; ex Radio Jockey. Currently involved in Reclaiming India - One Step at a Time.

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11 Responses

  1. Sabari says:

    Yay, Kerala ftw!

  2. Nimmy says:

    Cage people like Kanthapuran in a iron boz and drown in sea and throw away keys into a shark’s abdomen.

    Shame on muslims for not speaking against such morons.This proposed bill doesn’t ban polygamy nor does it ban the concept of talaq among Muslims. The only thing that it does that it tries to regulate the indiscreet marriages and divorces in the community. If a person remarries or misuses the provision of talaq he can and in most of the cases, he does easily get away with this because there is no effective mechanism in the existing Shariah based Muslim Personal Law Board which could ensure that he is punished as per the existing punitive measures available in the Shariah.

    The draft Bill titled “The Kerala Muslim Marriage and Dissolution by Talaq (Regulation) Bill” seeks to legislate that ‘monogamy shall be the rule’ and that ‘marrying again during the lifetime of husband or wife is an offence.’ However, the proposed Bill provides for remarriage by husband in exceptional cases “with the (wife’s) consent in writing before a notary public or a judicial officer expressing her consent to the second marriage and briefly giving her reasons for the consent.”

    The man, permitted to take a second wife, “shall be liable to provide reasonable accommodation and privacy as well as just alimony or maintenance sufficient for the wife to sustain herself in reasonable comfort.”The proposed law also says that marriage of Muslim shall be contract. It also says that “the female spouse shall be entitled to divorce only through court or with the approval of the conciliation council on grounds of irretrievable breakdown irreparable by conciliation

    What wrong with all this..These guys don’t do any good themselves,and when government trues to do something,they bla bla bla bla against it..Shame on muslims for remaining dumb against these dramas..I pray that you learn a lesson when it happens to your own daughter..God bless my prayeRS.

    I AM A KERALA MUSLIM.

    http://nimis540.wordpress.com/2008/12/14/proposed-kerala-muslim-marriage-bill-a-great-step-towards-a-noble-cause/

  3. Kaffir says:

    Let’s see if Arundhati Roy, other feminists of her ilk as well as moderate/liberal Muslims write a scathing essay criticizing the stand of these Kerala Muslim leaders who are against equality and women rights by opposing the abolition of polygamy. I’m not going to hold my breath, but one never knows…

  4. B Shantanu says:

    @ Munib: Thanks for the link..The video is 40mins long. I just watched the first 2-3 minutes which makes these two points:

    1] If 9 of the attackers are dead, who are the accused? (I am no expert in Urdu, so pl. correct me if I am wrong)

    2] The evidence and statement of Kasab is not admissible as it is presumed to be obtained under duress

    If this is the level of Talat Husain’s “ripping apart”/ analysis of the dossier, good luck to him and you.

    I admire your “patriotic” sentiments but you cannot really believe that the ISI and LeT had nothing to do with this attack..

    I am appalled by the desperate attempts within some sections of Pakistan’s society to discredit the evidence, question India’s motives against Pakistan and float conspiracy theories…

    There is a huge body of evidence on this issue…
    If you are really serious about trying to understand what happened, please read some of the posts in this category by Offstumped (over at NationalInterst.in)

    …and pl. stop being blind to the obvious.

  5. B Shantanu says:

    Please also read this post over at Acorn on “The Matter of Proof

  6. B Shantanu says:

    @ Munib: I am sure you will find this interesting:
    Pak concedes India has got proof against Pak nationals

    …The first-ever admission that India had proof came from Pakistan’s interior ministry chief Rehman Malik…(who) said “All actions which will be taken against the terrorist involved in the Mumbai terror attack will be carried only on the basis of proof shared by India. Now we have significant proof of the involvement of Pakistani nationals in the Mumbai terror attack and we assure of a fair justice. Pakistan’s investigation team will complete the probe into Mumbai attacks within 10 days…”

  7. Indian says:

    Nice video. Only Pervez .H has some brain. Rest of them proves they are the citizens of failed state. Only failed state can have this type of mentality and outlook towards the issue.

    Jai Hind!

  8. Sanjay says:

    From a friend:

    QUOTE

    I was going through a debate at a website where the topic of discussion was “whether there is a state-sponsored bias in denying Muslims’ induction in India’s security forces”.

    It was a lively chat. Most of the Muslims (probably who have had not much idea about security establishments, etc.) participating in that debate were finding state conspiracy behind the community’s backwardness. Then came the input
    from Raza ……(Let me copy and paste the details of his input)

    . Raza …………….
    Was going through this interesting debate on Muslims in the Indian Army. Let me take this opportunity to tell you that I am a Muslim serving in an Infantry Battalion in the IA (Indian Army). For obvious reasons, it would not be prudent of me to give specific details such as name, rank or serial number or even the name of the unit.

    Till seven months ago, we were deployed in the North-East and have also served out a tenure in the Kashmir Valley. There is absolutely no question of Muslims not serving their country – if 1400 years of tradition says that religion is above your country then that tradition should go straight to the dustbin. Even for a moment, I do not believe that such as tradition can exist – the only problem is that the interpretation of Islam by religious teachers is way off the mark and caters purely to selfish interests.

    I commanded a company comprising almost entirely Hindus from North India in the Valley and none of them ever looked upon me as a Muslim. My Btn. CO also had complete faith in me while conducting counter-insurgency ops in the valley. And no, it is simply not true that there is any bias within the army against any person on the basis of his religion. I have seen Muslim and Sikh officers doing exactly the same tasks as their Hindu counterparts and getting the same rewards. It is a pleasure to serve in the IA. I can only thank my ancestors for not making the awful decision of going to Pakistan in 1947 – I can’t imagine being in the Pakistani Army with an Army Chief who doesn’t know what to do for his country. Tomorrow if I were to lose my life in action, my country will accept me as its own unlike the Pakistanis who did not even accept their dead soldiers.

    Jai Hind!

    · Raza …………………….
    Thanks, ……… Would like to go further from my earlier comments and dwell briefly on the root cause of the problems.

    I think all religions and societies need to change with the times and reform. That process of reform has not swept through the Muslim community in India. Among most Hindus, it happened in the 19th century when horrific traditions such as Sati were first condemned and then banned by law. Now, I am sure Sati was not mentioned anywhere in the Hindu religious texts but was a practice that was brought in due to brahminical tyranny. Similarly, there are many strange practices in Islam which the religion itself does not talk about but have been brought in the the clergy in their attempt to keep control of the community and the minds of the people. Unfortunately, whenever some Muslim condemns these practices in India, someone takes a fatwa against him. If a non-Muslim criticises these strange practices, he is labelled ‘communal’. Someone has to be bold enough to change it and that change needs to come from within.

    Let me talk specifically of a few issues. Recently, I heard of some religious body ‘permitting’ Muslims to have colour televisions. Why on earth do we need to seek anyone’s permission to use Colour TVs. Nowhere in the Holy Book is there any mention of Colour TVs, so who are these people to ‘interpret’ the book to me as a Muslim?

    Similarly, regarding the protest on the Danish cartoons. No doubt, it was in very bad taste and hurt the sentiments of the deeply religious minded. But the amount of publicity the cartoons got AFTER the protests was nothing in comparison to what it would have got HAD THE PROTESTS BEEN LESS HYSTERICAL. By jumping into the street in thousands, we Muslims actually defeated the purpose. There is great merit in the Gandhain way of protest if one were to use it.

    To come back to the main theme, if the army and other military, para-military organizations have to see more Muslims coming in, Muslims themselves will have to evolve to better education levels. If they spend all their childhood in a madrasa, then all they will get is a clerical position in the waqf board. That process of educational reform will come only when parents wake up and start sending their children to proper (read English Medium, CBSE and equivalent) schools. From what I have been able to make out on visits to my ancestoral town, that process may have begun. Inshallah, I hope it goes on.

    .

    UNQUOTE

  9. B Shantanu says:

    Apparently Deoband never issued a fatwa against mass Surya Namaskar programme in MP: http://www.anindianmuslim.com/2012/01/rediffs-report-on-deoband-fatwas-wrong.html