As more skeltons keep tumbling out of the cupboard…
As more skeltons keep tumbling out of the cupboard (Ratan Tata, BJP, N K Singh, Arun Shourie), I am opening this thread to hear your thoughts and comments on how deep you think the rot is…and what can be done?
To trigger the conversation, excerpts from three links..the first from a post by Churumuri, ” Has Ratan Tata ruined the Tata brand image?
…as he prepares to step into the shadows, having turned a quiet Parsi outfit into a global conquistador, willRatan Tata—under whose leadership the revenue of the Tata group has gone up 40 times—go down as the dikra who messed with the holy grail?
For starters, the Tata group is smack bang in the middle of the Rs 173,000 crore 2G spectrum allocation scam. The tapped conversations of Ratan Tata’s chief lobbyist, Niira Radia, reveal how a gang of politicians, bureaucrats, businessmen, and journalists re-inserted the tainted A. Raja into Manmohan Singh‘s cabinet in 2009.
# One key conversation (on 13 June 2009) between Radia and DMK supremo M. Karunanidhi‘s third wifeRajathiammal matches with the contents of a set of documents that were doing the rounds earlier this year, that revealed that the Tatas (through their subsidiary Voltas) had agreed to build a building in Madras, apparently as a payoff to DMK for keeping Dayanidhi Maran out of the telecom ministry.
…Obviously, doing business in India and growing at the kind of rate the Tatas have, is not a walk in the park. Equally obviously, the Radia conversations do not represent the full story. Still, have the tapes removed the halo from around the head of the Tatas? Is Ratan Tata right in seeking shelter under right to privacy, or is he trying to hide more dirt from coming out? And has Ratan Tata proved no different from his much-reviled peers?
Next, from the Indian Express (thanks to Sid for sharing the link):
In a major embarrassment to the BJP, senior leader Arun Shourie has claimed that his party had replaced him as the lead speaker for the discussion on the Union Budget at the last moment last year fearing that he may oppose a proposal in the Budget which would have helped industrialist Mukesh Ambani, a charge vehemently denied by the BJP.
…In one of the leaked Radia tapes, Singh claims: “One of the complications in this is that, between you and me, Mr Arun Shourie has gone and got himself completely on the other side (Anil Ambani side). Because he has been promised a Rajya Sabha (ticket) by Tony (Jesudasan, Anil Ambani’s media manager and lobbyist) and company.â€
Finally, an extract from Swapan Dasgupta’s post on why not to shoot every caller:
Are journalists supposed to be unbiased? The myth of objective journalism needs to be demolished. Everyone has biases, preferences and prejudices. Some are ideological, others based on personality. For a tiny handful, the tilt is dictated by material favours—a euphemism for plain corruption.
….Readers often expect the political writer to provide them arguments to reaffirm a pre-existing conviction or preference. I have never hidden the fact that I am unashamedly Right wing. Neither have I objected when TV anchors have introduced me as being “close to the BJP.” I am close to it but I choose to disagree with the party when I feel it necessary.
Barkha Dutt too has her political leanings. I have often jokingly taunted her as the “voice of the Hurriyat”.
Vir Sanghvi refers to the Congress as “we”. He is not being disingenuous. Perhaps he should admit his preferences openly. It wouldn’t be misconstrued.
Do also read the comments on Swapan Dasgupta’s post…quite a few of them are thought-provoking (as is his piece)..
Bonus Link (Hat Tip: Devendra) Indian journalism has always been weak on ethics by Abhay Vaidya from which this memorable quote:
In a 2006 interview on journalist ethics, Bradlee (Editor, Washington Post) had a word of caution for celebrity-journalists: “The danger is that these guys begin to look more important than they are and they think they’re more important than they are.”
Looking forward to your views/comments…Pl note that I am travelling over the next few days and may be delayed in responding to (and moderating) comments. Thank you for your patience and support as always.
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Dear Shantanu
Not for nothing I’ve been saying for years now that EVERY politician from the major parties is deeply compromised. The rot was COMPLETE even in 1982 when I started in the IAS. I closely observed its functioning and by 1998 found a way out, and proposed a way forward – which is now occurring through the FTI (http://freedomteam.in/).
Let me assure you even the most “ethical” businessman in India is deeply compromised. The system ONLY rewards deviousness. This is how India has functioned since Nehru’s time, Shantanu. JRD Tata was the LAST great industrialist of India.
Regards
Sanjeev
It is right now very difficult to point out what is the cause and what’s the impact. This post refers to three sets of players: businessmen, politicians and media.
Let me share a few thoughts (without the benefit of structure). (Sorry for this long comment – first time I am posting here.)
1. I believe business got corrupted during the licence raj… as Sanjeev points out, Nehru’s policies – further reinforced by Indira Gandhi – ensured that only the ‘devious’ could get ahead. So, Indian businessmen and entrepreneurs could watch others in India and elsewhere keep moving ahead or join the bandwagon themselves.
2. India has got liberalized in many ways, but in many ways it hasn’t. The plethora of permissions and permits still continues. Take telecom itself. The fact that there was so much “vagueness” in the licensing policy is indication that many sectors are still not truly de-regulated. Opportunities for business to influence policy making and its (selective) implementation continue; the administration benefits and so do some businessmen.
3. The sad reality of the matter is that no business in India can achieve its full potential if it does not participate in this “system”, if not wholly at least very substantially. In particular, businesses that require the Govt. to provide some form of resources (spectrum, land, mines, etc.) and permissions (FDI, licences, etc.) are impacted by this system. Businesses like IT and BPO have managed to avoid this clutch, but most other businesses cannot get away.
4. Should businesses get into influencing policies? Or influencing who becomes a Minister or not? In my view, every stakeholder in the country has such rights, as long as they do not wrongfully influence, i.e. provide inducements to ensure the outcome. Most ministers today are linked to either a business house or some other “cause”; I don’t think there is anything wrong with that (after all, they are people too, with friends and beliefs) as long as (A) they did not get in to their role through wrong influence and (B) they do not use their powers to unduly benefit who they like / support. In the current environment of coalition politics and weak executive leadership, it is highly likely that the PM has limited choice / influence on who his Cabinet colleagues are …. and that for me is the bigger problem.
5. My understanding is that businesses believe that as long as they are not “paying” money to get an outcome, they are not corrupt. Some form of business quid pro quo is treated as par for the course. So, an auto major might seek (“negotiate”) concessions and benefits from a state Government, in return for a promise of investments and job creation. Or social investments. Is that unethical? I don’t think so. Many countries and states “negotiate” tax rates with foreign investors based on level of investments and jobs. I know Singapore does it. As long as an individual or the decision maker does not benefit, but the region / state / city benefits in return for “concessions”, there is nothing wrong.
6. The way to stem the rot in the business-politics nexus is to (A) truly deregulate (and clear rules / procedures) all major sectors so that opportunities for corruption are reduced immensely; (B) immediately punish both sides of the corruption act, when it comes to light.
7. Coming to the media, the absence of “true” competition has caused the current situation, IMO. We do not have a strong public news/broadcast organization; we all know what ails Prasar Bharti. Similarly, there isn’t adequate competition from global media companies because of FDI restrictions. In order to compete with the incumbents, even new players are behaving like incumbents… so we really have no choice from the so-called main-stream media.
8. Recent behaviour by media has shown that you cannot expect MSM to drive independent and objective reporting or analysis. They are now part of the system since they have the same business “compulsions” that other businesses have. Given that (almost) all media houses are controlled by individuals / families, there is little chance for the editorial team to exert supremacy (unlike a truly public-investor owned media company).
9. I have two “solutions” suggestions for the media issue: One, the Government must encourage full competition in the news sector. Competition can come in the form of foreign investors as well as a re-invigorated Prasar Bharti that should go out of government management.
10. In addition, I truly believe that the media has lost its “fourth estate” status. We must treat them like any other business and source of information. The media should lose any ‘special’ benefits it currently receives as an “independent” arm of society. They should be asked to disclose their business interests as well as political / other affiliations.
Thanks.
(I am unable to disclose my identity in public due to work compulsions, but Shantanu has access to my details. My comments, however, are not conflicted by my employment status.)
I am a bit upset the way you have mentioned Dr. Shourie’s name in your post. Do watch his interview with Karan Thapar on this subject.
For a moment, please step back from value judgements and look at the following statement from #1.
“EVERY politician from the major parties is deeply compromised”
and compare it with what Kant said about morality
“If everybody were moral, morality would have lost its meaning”.
Let me suggest that in the present context, the words ‘compromise’ and ‘corruption’ have lost its meaning simply because everyone compromises and everyone, at his level of operation, is corrupt.
Both Tatas and Reliance have contributed immensely to Indian society and Nation. They couldn’t have done so without playing the system. They do have their internal set of standards. Without such standards, they would not have achieved what they have done. Ditto with politicians, parties, media houses. Don’t forget the way Barkha grilled the commonwealth official Mike Fennell.
The problem is with we the people and our own standards and wants. What is it that you want from a party? For example, from BJP? Has anyone or any group spelt it out and measured the performance of BJP (or for that matter, any party, company, media house etc) on those yardsticks?
All that people seem to be doing is to compare everyone with the ideology of Dharmaraja in Mahabharata or Rama in Ramayana. No wonder everyone fails! Dharmaraja himself never believed he passed the test.
I found this interview of Arun Shourie interesting: http://www.rediff.com/news/report/interview-arun-shourie-on-the-real-meaning-of-the-radia-tapes1/20101201.htm
Dear All: Thanks for sharing your thoughts…currently travelling..but hope to respond soon…
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@Akshar: Pl do share the link to Sh Arun Shourie’s interview if you can…He is one of last few people in India that I still have enormous respect for and it hurts me to see his name being dragged into this.
Indiawins: Thanks for the link to his interview…I’ll have a look
Time has come for another freedom struggle…freedom from corruption, corrupt politicians and rotten system. This fight wont be easy as enemy is not some foreigner, its our own people, we help them by giving them our vote, buying their products, shares. We need to organize once again like we did to fight against British raj. This will be long battle so prepare for it…
Shantanu,
I’m surprised that you are claiming this as a shocking development.
There is little difference between the major parties when it comes to governance. If you have read or watched ‘Yes Minister’ its a near flawless execution of how politics in real life is.
A.Raja would have been looking for drinking partners with the BJP and AIADMK as opposed to his own partymen fighting for his ministry.
I do like Swapan-da’s candor in coming out with his ideological preference. At least he has some integrity when others have chosen to hide behind the fig leaf of journalistic rights (or whatever Barkha and her cronies claim).
@DD: Thanks for the comment…hope to respond with a thoughtful comment soon..
Btw, I think you may have mis-read my post…I dont think this is shocking (way beyond that)..just terribly terribly depressing…
Shame, humiliation and nausea were some the emotions on hearing the conversation in the tapes.
There are many amongst us who have, based on honest work, integrity and intelligence, gained recognition internationally. And that is the picture of the changing India that we try to project- where diligence and hard work are rewarded.
The tapes reveal the gory details of how decisions of national importance are being made based on narrow political/individual gains. The rote is endemic. Agreed the primary goal of the lobbying and PR firms is to promote the interests of their clients. But lobby groups also serve a secondary objective of providing the decision makers and wider perspective and educating about the merits/demerits of a policy decision. However, in these tapes one could see only greed, political/family vendetta as the basis for decisions.
Now Shantanu, where is the Maha mrityunjay mantra …
Take a look here:
http://indiasreport.com/magazine/data/why-are-prannoy-roy-aroon-poorie-shobhana-bhartia-vineet-jain-raghav-behl-silent-the-key-questions-and-issues-which-need-their-answers-now/
Corruption is a very easy label to attach to the problem of government of a country. Of course if a people choose not to have a government (or a government in mere name only), then each and every person is simply answerable to himself.
In practice such a vacuum should not last long. A people who have not been well fitted to government have ended up being being governed by others with the zeal and organisation to impose the stamp of their rule and secure the fruits of their victories. King Bharat epitomises the conscientiousness of Bharat as a nation and the manner of how such a rule which had the nations great respect was secured: conquest and defeat of challengers. Any person who presumed upon the bounty of the king would have expected to be crushed. We should not underestimate how fragile such authority has been in the history of many countries. Bharat was never again so comprehensively ruled. The India of today only covers a portion of the territory over which King Bharat had dominion: this was despite the constitution which he bequeathed for an elective king: an early experiment in democracy.
Human frailties and ambitions have never been great respectors of such arrangements. Religion often plays a role in the narrative legitimizing rule which was seen in evidence in the Mahabharat. This became the religion of Bharat rather than its history. The real history of Bharat is about scattered kingdoms which only saw advantage in securing outside intervention to secure their advantage. This has provided the genesis of India’s corruption. The strong hand of King Bharat is not even a footnote in India’s long history.
Unrestrained by ethics or religion, it should not be surprising that every Indian has his price. If nobility in Bharat’s society was to be found in the chivalry of its warriors, they had long been vanquished and ceased to be relevant in the modern India given to Gandhianism. When the cancer is so deep, mere exultations does not suffice. Normal class analysis would suggest that the saviour would come from the middle class: this class only exists as a conduit for consumer goods. It remains part and parcel of India’s polity which is divided horizontally and vertically in every way imaginable. India has not for some decades elected a government with a mandate but ones that have been known for shabby compromises. The constitution was wholly inappropriate for the problems of government faced by the country. There is neither the intelligentsia to guide it out of the morass.
If this much is recognised, the first steps might be taken to finding a solution.
Found this a bit late. Ranjan Bhattacharya and Nira Radia:
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?268340
It did not ring a bell at first then I found out that the dude in question is son-in-law of ex-PM Vajpayee-ji. Also a friend of Sunil Mittal if Radia is to be believed.
Excerpts from BJP slams PM over ‘Rs 85,000-crore coal scam’
..The modus operandi of this scam too is like that of the 2G scam where “rules were bent, definitions changed, modalities distorted to benefit the allottees, many sold the coal blocks to other companies at hefty premium,” BJP’s Vidarbha MP Hansraj Ahir and BJP spokesman Prakash Javadekar claimed at a press conference in New Delhi.
..The scam started with the introduction of the Mines and Minerals Amendment Bill in 2006 in Parliament for auction of mines that triggered a rush and the government went on surreptitiously gifting coal blocks free of cost to 143 private companies without waiting for passage of the Bill, the BJP charged.
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Ahir and Javadekar claimed that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had an excuse that the arrested former telecom minister A Raja had carried out the 2G scam behind his back, but he cannot have any such alibi as he headed the coal ministry and sat over the coal blocks frittered away for three years to 51 companies in 2006, 19 in 2007, 41 in 2008 and 32 in 2009.
Who are these companies that minted money? The existing policy allowed allotment of the coal blocks to the actual user industries, namely steel, cement and power plants, while those gifted the blocks had neither any industry nor even any licence to start such an industry to get the blocks. They were all paper companies, the BJP leaders charged.
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He said the going rate as per the business circles is Rs 50 per tonne and thus more than Rs 85,000 crore changed hands during the four-year-long coal scam.
More skeltons…Excerpts from Minister steals a telephone exchange, loots BSNL by Sh S Gurumurthy, Express News ServiceLast Updated : 02 Jun 2011 (emphasis added):
What could be the probable loss to the exchequer by this fraud? On “a sample studyâ€, the CBI says, “it is learnt that 48,72,027 units of calls have emanated from [just] one Telephone No 24371515 in the month of March 2007 alone, which is indicative of the massive multimedia transfer in the underlying connectionsâ€. Just one of the 323 lines accounted for over 48 lakh call units in March 2007 alone – Yes almost 49 lakh call units in one month, through one of the 323 phones!
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With the prevailing rate of 70 paise per call unit could the loss to BSNL be as high as `440 crore? Only a thorough investigation can reveal the true loot. But, the story does not end here. SUN TV’s print cousin ‘Dinakaran’, too has got its share of the loot…
But how did the CBI get to investigate the fraud and where is its report now? It calls for a brief flash back.
Maran, a grand nephew of Karunanidhi, was the central telecom minister from June 2004 to May 2007. Perhaps the only Hindi knowing family member, Maran was Karunanidhi’s eyes and ears in Delhi and his connect to Sonia Gandhi. The ‘young’ and ‘dynamic’ minister was amongst the most powerful in the UPA government of which the DMK was the most critical partner.
Need an illustration for Maran’s reach then? Not only could he threaten Ratan Tata to part with a third of Tata DTH shares, but he also could threaten him not to reveal that he had threatened him! But suddenly, Maran fell from the cliff into the pit, thanks to a costly slip by Dinakaran, a Tamil daily owned by Dayanidhi’s brother Kalanidhi Maran. On 9.5.2007, Dinakaran carried an opinion poll that had trashed Karunanidhi’s son Alagiri as non-entity in Tamil Nadu politics. Alagiri’s angry supporters burnt down the Madurai establishment of Dinakaran on the same day, snuffing out the lives of three innocent staff. Karunanidhi sided with his son Alagiri against his grand nephews, the Marans.
Result, Dayanidhi was instantly out of the DMK and the central ministry. It was then that the CBI probed the daring fraud. And now back to the main story.
The CBI had recommended action against Maran as early as in September 2007.
But the CBI letter is obviously sleeping somewhere since then, and for the last 44 months. The CBI letter had specifically asked the Telecom Secretary to bring the matter “to the notice of†Raja. So the case against Maran of DMK was to be approved by Raja also of DMK.
With the 2009 elections approaching, as was expected, warring nephews and sons of Karunanidhi patched up on December 1, 2008, with Karunanidhi saying, “my eyes grew moist and heart was content.†The CBI letter was perhaps used to make Marans fork out generous terms for peace. After the 2009 elections, Dayanidhi, who got elected, attempted again to make it to the Telecom Ministry, but could not.
He became the Textile Minister instead; and he is so even now.
With the family feud subsiding, the CBI letter against Maran began gathering dust somewhere in Telecom Ministry.
Haunted by the 2-G scam, Raja resigned in November 2010 and Kapil Sibal took over. Sibal is sitting on the CBI report since then.
And Maran, as Textile Minister, is sitting in cabinet meetings along with Sibal.
And despite the CBI advice for action against Maran sleeping for over 44 months, now Prime Minister promises to Baba Ramdev that he would tackle corruption with “seriousness†and “without delayâ€, while he himself is still sitting with Maran in cabinet meetings. It seems as much a comedy as it is a tragedy.