Who are these “Aryan Leaders”?

Courtesy Sunitha, this curious statement from Sh Veeramani of DK, as reported in the New Indian Express (emphasis mine):

The call of Dravidar Kazhagam  leader K Veeramani to “reject the Aryan leaders” in the upcoming Lok Sabha elections has been seen by many as a ploy to promote the politics of Dravidianism, particularly that of the DMK, in the State.

Thiru Veeramani is no stranger to controversy…and he is of course, far too well-read and educated to make this statement out of ignorance…

Sad to see people like him get down to this level to attract votes…

P.S. If you read the New Indian Express story in full, you will notice that at least one political leader with “Aryan leanings” has been mentioned by one of the voters.

I am slowly getting educated on the politics of India.

Jai Hind, Jai Bharat!

Related Posts:

Would Shri Veeramani care to read this? 

The Aryan-Dravidian Controversy 

Revising the “Aryan Invasion of India” Theory 

and finally, ‘Periyar was against Brahminism, not Brahmins’ (excerpts) 

Some of you will also find this post from Sandeep interesting: Karunanidhi’s Gems Circa 2008

B Shantanu

Political Activist, Blogger, Advisor to start-ups, Seed investor. One time VC and ex-Diplomat. Failed mushroom farmer; ex Radio Jockey. Currently involved in Reclaiming India - One Step at a Time.

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15 Responses

  1. Nanda says:

    These people always think that if they can destroy brahmins, they can destroy hinduism, thats their goal since EV Ramasamy. Veermani and the entire dravida clan starting from EV Ramasamy are hate mongers who have no value system. They are the people who advise against hinduism like advocating polygamy for both men and women with no marriage institution. They are the people who were against independence and wanted British to continue ruling. All of them are opportunists and 20th century history is the sakshi.
    What you are seeing is not new in TN, these kind of politics have been there even during Rajaji’s time, rather even prior to independence.
    So this news is no surprise to forward castes in TN. Other public like these statements as most are casteists in TN.
    We keep discussing about the plight of Kashmiri pandits. I would ask what about TN brahmins, they were also driven out due to continuous suppressive regime and reverse discrimination by these DK parties.

  2. borneveryday says:

    This isnt new in T.N. And i also dont think that its just a feature in TN. Its there at many places like UP/Bihar where the “leaders” like mayawati and mullahyam singh have made such casteist remarks, but they call them brahmins directly rather than “Aryans” as with the DK in TN.
    The problem is casteism and it has been ingrained into the minds of people of India,and the politicians will do all they can to make use of it.
    Like the previous commentor who says “So this news is no surprise to forward castes in TN.” Now I need to know who are the forward caste’s? And how are you/they forward by any chance? Why dont we stop using such terms as forward / backward caste?
    Tough ask I know…..Its just ingrained into the minds i suppose.

  3. Ramesh says:

    The expression “Forward Caste” is a fraudulent, illegal and unconstitutional expression. It is an invention labelled on a section of the society to fulfill a diabolical intention of depriving this labelled community of their right to education, their right to livelihood, their right to citizenship and the very right to be alive. Has any person given in writing that he/she wants to be called “forward”? Then with whose authority has this term been pasted on a section of the society? Brahmins in TN and other places must reject this illegal and unconstitutional labelling.

  4. B Shantanu says:

    Nanda, borneveryday and Ramesh: Thanks for your comments…I have asked many friends before but have never been able to get a full picture of (and background to) the strong anti-Brahmin sentiment in Tamil Nadu.

    Can you please help me understand the historical context – or point me to sources/links which have more details on the background?

    Thanks

  5. Kiran P says:

    Shantanu,

    There are very devious minds at play in this area. I am not sure you have heard of this invention of the church and western powers called “Afro-Dalit” Project which is manufacturing evidence for dalits to be African blacks in India! It’s a must read.

    Here are two links to Shri. Rajiv Malhotra’s essays which shed light on this.

    http://rajivmalhotra.sulekha.com/blog/post/2004/04/washington-post-and-hinduphobia.htm

    http://indianrealist.wordpress.com/2009/03/16/rajiv-malhotra-on-where-is-india-in-the-encounter-of-civilisations/

    Snippet:

    Afro-Dalit Project

    Now what caught me started on this course of understanding America’s intervention with India’s break up was a very interesting meeting I had with a scholar in Princeton University. We were just sitting and having lunch and he has just come back from India and I said “What did you do in India?” And he said “Oh I went there as part of the Afro-Dalit project” So I asked him what is this Afro Dalit project. So he said, “Oh we go to India we do youth empowerment and training programmes” I said “It is very interesting. Can you tell me what it is? Who are the Dalits?” And he said “Well. … They are Africans. They are the blacks of India and the non-Dalits are the whites of India. And this is the black-white history of India which is mirroring the black white history of America. And the Afro-Dalit project is to educate our Dalit brothers.” This was amazing to me. And my whole thesis started when I started searching on Afro-Dalit project.

    And there is a whole library of what they are up to and who funds them. And they are very much active in Tamil Nadu building up a whole network of youth empowerment and youth training to give them a contrary sense of history that they are historically a kind of oppressed people and non-religious and so on. The Church has a vested interest in it because if you can dislocate their identity from the rest of India then you can re-programme them and give them a new religion and so on. This is called Dalitstan project.

    So I was invited to this scholar’s office. And I saw this map. This is the map of the Dalitstan that was hanging there. On the northern part is Mughalstan which is from Afghanistan, Pakistan and all the way to Bangladesh. This turns out to be what Mullah Omar says when he states that he wants to put the flag of Taliban on the red fort of Delhi and recreate the Mughal Empire. And the southern part of India is Dalitstan and Dravidstan. So these guys are working on it.

    So I was very much amazed that nobody is talking about it. Nobody seems to have noticed. Yet these guys have an open project. If you just Google Afro-Dalit you will come across a lot of hits and you yourself can see that. Then I started getting deeper into it and found that there is merit in the thesis that says that the local minorities are being appropriated by global nexuses. Afro-Dalit Project is just one example.

  6. sivakumar velayutham says:

    hi Kiran P,

    Did you refer to this Mughalistan map?

    http://www.bengalgenocide.com/mughalistan.php

  7. K. Harapriya says:

    According to Karunanidhi and the DMK, it is not just the Brahmins who are Aryans. Apparently anyone from Northern India (or for that matter anyone from north of Tamil Nadu) can be considered aryan. This definition of Aryan is one of those flexible ones which can be used to disparage any group they dislike. Thus, since according to them, the original dravidian religion was not Hinduism, Hinduism is also considered an aryan imposition. According to them Jainism and Buddhism existed in the South before Hinduism wiped those religions out. The fact that Hinduism (as characterized by the Vedas) actually predates those two religions by at least 1000 years if not more seems to have escaped this group. Also the fact that most of the ancient rulers of Tamil Nadu built Hindu temples and considered themselves “aryan” seems to escape them.

  8. K. Harapriya says:

    A point that many non- Tamil Indians may not appreciate is that the tamils truly consider themselves a separate civilization which is better than the rest of Indian civilization. They consider their language the most unique and wonderful. There is even a saying in Tamil that Tamil existed even before the soil and rocks. (Does that even make sense?) Now all Indians have a love for their mother tongue be they Bengalis or Telugu etc. but all of them also learn Hindi. But not the Tamil. The Tamils think of it as an imposition just as living within the context of the Indian nation as an imposition.

  9. borneveryday says:

    This attitude is probably the best example of the triumph of the Aryan Invasion Theory that the british started to propogate. North Indian Aryan and the South Indian Dravidian. It was not just the british who are to blame for this there are othe factors
    1. The high handedness of the early brahmins against the non brahmins would have had an impact, and people were waiting to return the favour.
    2. It was falsely stated that the north indians were the devas of the epics and the south indians were the rakshas. And many foolish indians lapped it up, mainly the north indians.
    3. It also did not help that after the independence the parliment was literally run by the north indians and the ones from the south had very little say.
    4. Then came the issue of the impostion of hindi as a compulsary language which brought the aryan/dravidian divide to a boil.
    Its funny that the north/south divide wasnt there until the british came over and gave us the Aryan/Dravidian theory. And also it would not have gone to such a bad extent if it were handled well by our early politicians, because the issue started to boil over only during the 1900’s upwards.

  10. B Shantanu says:

    @ Kiran: Thanks for the links. I will have a look..

    ***

    @ Harapriya: Thanks for sharing those insights…Your comment at #8 is eye-opening although not shocking…

    ***

    @ borneveryday: Sad but true…we cannot put all the blame on the British…The point about Parliament being dominated by north India(ns) still resonates (look no further than the number of seats that UP and Bihar have amongst themselves). As for the matter of “Hindi”, I agree that it was handled ham-handedly…(or perhaps it is easier to realise this in retrospect)

  11. Ramesh says:

    Shantanu asks “what is the background to the strong anti-brahmin sentiment in TN?”. There is no background, except one of jealousy. “Anti-brahminism” is too mild a term to describe the vicious hatred sponsored and fanned by the concoction called “dravidianism”. There is no culture. There is no goodness. There is no value system. There is only one emotion – vicious genocidal hatred born out of jealousy, delusions and hallucinations. Just consider one example. During the past five decades, the so-called Dravidian leaders would have said that the ‘reserved class’ of TN (reportedly comprising 97%, 95% or any other figure that comes to one’s mind) is “Oppressed”.The dravidian gang has ruled TN since the 1920s and ninety years later (and after extermination of all brahmins from public arena), if the majority are “oppressed”, who is responsible? Naturally the elements who have ruled TN!!! Isn’t it amazing, that a person/group that has ruled TN for the 75-80 yrs calls itself “oppressed”? It is obvious that theses elements are suffering from delusions. Now consider the public employment scene in TN. More than 99% of the jobs are held by “oppressed” (pun intended) and yet Ramadoss senior recently said that “social justice has not been achieved”!!! Obviously he was unhappy that about 1% (or less) of the state jobs had gone to the “oppressors” (again pun intended)!!!

  12. B Shantanu says:

    Ramesh: What is the reason for this “jealousy?”

  13. Nanda says:

    @Shantanu
    Jealousy happens because of only one reason everywhere, which is when a person or group of people cannot tolerate the perceived better position of a different person or group of people. The reason why I mention ‘perceived’ is because, it could be either true or could be an induced opinion. This is true for the entire nation. This perpetual hatred between Dalits and OBCs and everyone’s hatred on Brahmins are all induced by foreign elements and atheists and missionaries.

    For ex, I would not feel bad if my brother scores higher mark than me and get an engineering seat while I don’t. But when someone comes and removes that ‘brotherhood’ feeling from my mind, then I feel jeolous and hate him. Max Muller and his boot lickers in TN like Periyar and entire DK clan acheived this very well and corrupted the minds of people.

    If you ask why these anti-nationals created this jealousy, its because these atheist (alias anti-hindu) wanted Hinduism to die, they wanted to target Brahmins who are knowledgeable in religion, they thought that by isolating and chasing out brahmins, they can destroy hinduism. I would say they succeeded to an extent, now though most of TN are hindus they don’t have any sense of religious dignity to question these atheists, because of their lack of religious knowledge and their disrespect to their own religion.

    After all these, they still keep saying they are ‘oppressed’, so obviously, hating brahmins didn’t help them. They would have come out of oppression if they had driven those atheists Periyar clan out of TN.

  14. Indian says:

    Jealousy, also because of clash of vlaues which non-brahmin were unable to follow and it seems it is hard for them to achieve or cope up with that standard in day to day life in present times also.

    Also, brahmins in past have set up inferior and superior standard(complex) in day to day life, without considering the social status or strength of non-bramins. I am talking in positive way, it is good to live the life by certain beief and values. It is the strength. But it is not possible to expect the same strength from everyone. I had some TN brahmin friends and from very near I have noticed them; they don’t take time to make feel faulty or (inferior) if they find err in a behaviour of another person in a little way, even the err in thought process. I applaud brahmins for expecting high morals and standard from the society. But they must understand it is not necessary that everyone should be like them. Brahmins always strives to do better in personal as well as professional life but not all non-brahmins have the same yearnings because of their upbringings. I may be wrong, but this is what I sensed in past. Today it seems situation in TN has gone worst, I see it as a clash of values.

    Guys dont take my comment by heart, it is just my 2 cents. But on another note I agree with Nanda and Gajanan in many ways. They are opressed because they are not uplifting themselves by following certain faith and standard and blames Brahmins for their opression.