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		<title>On Cow Slaughter etc..</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post has been some time in coming &#8211; and I am penning my thoughts on something controversial after a long time. It was prompted by the recent decision of government of MP to increase the punishment for cow slaughter. As many of you would know, the issue of cow-slaughter is not a new one.  In fact, the demand for a ban on slaughter of cows is more than a century old – and was first raised in modern times by Swami Dayanand Saraswati and the Arya Samaj. It has ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post has been some time in coming &#8211; and I am penning my thoughts on <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/07/21/ram-janmabhoomi-2/">something controversial after a long time</a>. It was prompted by the recent decision of government of MP to increase the punishment for cow slaughter. As many of you would know, <strong>the issue of cow-slaughter is not a new one</strong>.  In fact, the demand for a ban on slaughter of cows is more than a century old – and was first raised in modern times by Swami Dayanand Saraswati and the Arya Samaj. It has been suggested that the British inadvertently strengthened the &#8220;Cow Protection Movement&#8221; by decreeing that the cow is not a sacred animal and can be slaughtered. I have my doubts about this &#8220;theory&#8221; but here is the reference:</p>
<blockquote><p>In 1888, a high court in Allahabad ruled that cows are not “sacred” animals as defined in section 295 of the Indian Penal Code and Muslims could not be held accountable for slaughtering them. (1).</p></blockquote>
<p>There are accounts from colonial times of Muslims slaughtering cows during Bakr-Id festival although there is no religious decree to support cow slaughter (<em>In fact, the Supreme Court in Mohammad Hanif Qureshi Vs. State of Bihar in 1958 had held that the Muslims had no religious right to kill cows on Bakr-Id)</em>.  Although some argue that the cow was merely used as a symbol for mobilizing Hindu opinion by Arya Samaj and other leaders of the movement, the fact that it spread rapidly over large parts of India in a day and age where communication and travel was very difficult is indicative of the underlying strength of emotions towards this animal.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>In the 1870s, cow protection movements spread rapidly in the Punjab, the North-West provinces, Awadh and Rohilkhand</strong>. Arya Samaj had a tremendous role in skillfully converting this sentiment into a national movement. <strong>The first Gaurakshini sabha (cow protection society) was established in the Punjab in 1882</strong>.(2) The movement spread rapidly all over North India and to Bengal,Bombay, Madras and other central provinces.</p></blockquote>
<p>It has been mentioned that</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Signatures, up to 350,000 in some places, were collected to demand a ban on cow sacrifice</strong>.(3)</p></blockquote>
<p>The strong sentiment around cow-slaughter – and Mahatma Gandhi&#8217;s strong views on the matter &#8211; led to its inclusion in Constitution under Article 48 (Part IV; Directive Principles of State Policy) which states that: (the) <em>State shall preserve and improve the breeds and prohibit the slaughter of cows, calves and other cows and drought cattle. </em></p>
<p><em> </em>It has also been mentioned that when this issue was being debated in Parliament, many wanted a total ban on cow slaughter but this was opposed by Nehru and thus a compromise was reached by including it in terms of Directive Principles. I <a href="http://dahd.nic.in/ch1/chap1.htm#item21" target="_blank">do not have sufficient references</a> (also see #164) to back this up but hope to find links to debate/discussion in Constituent Assembly on this matter. However, it appears that during the debate in the Constituent Assembly at least some Muslim Members (Mr. Z.H. Lari and Syed Mohammad Saidulla?) were willing for cow slaughter prohibition to be kept as a Fundamental Right.  Regardless of the deliberations in Constituent Assembly &#8211; and since then &#8211; <strong>the cow continues to be an object of great reverence and is widely considered sacred – cutting across castes and regions in India</strong>.  <strong>Laws banning slaughter of cow and its progeny have been promulgated in almost all states in India</strong> except Paschim Banga, Kerala, Nagaland and Meghalaya (the latter two have a predominant Christian population). The ban on cow slaughter was in news last year too when the government of Karnataka passed a law that prohibiting the slaughter of buffaloes along with cow and its progeny (a law protecting the cow was already in force in Karnataka since earlier).  And as noted above, this has been in news once again prompted by a move by the government in MP to seek punishment of up to 7 years for slaughter of cow (<em>note <a href="http://www.spreadlaw.in/blogsmore.php?id=115 " target="_blank">the punishment is not for consumption of beef but for slaughter of cow</a></em>).</p>
<p><strong>The  cow and bullock have a venerated place in the ancient traditions of Bharat</strong>. The cow  is referred to by various names in the Vedas including <em>Aditi, KamaDhenu and Aghnya (that which cannot be killed). </em>Other than its milk and by-products, a cow has numerous &#8220;economic&#8221; uses. Cow dung is known to act as an anti-septic and reportedly acts as an air purifier when burnt. It also acts as a coolant when mixed with mud and applied to walls of dwellings. There is also some evidence to suggest that the chemical composition of cow-urine may have medicinal properties (and may play <a href="http://www.indianexpress.com/news/cow-urine-drug-developed-by-rss-body-gets-us/635054/">a part in cancer therapy</a>).</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">One of the many names of Bhagwaan ShriKrishna&#8217;s is &#8220;Gopal&#8221; (Protector of Cows).  Muhammad Ghori was apparently pardoned by Prithviraj Chauhan when he asked to be treated like a &#8220;cow&#8221; (unfortunately I don&#8217;t have full &amp; reliable references). There are records to suggest that Akbar issued <em>firmans </em>prohibiting cow-slaughter to respect the sentiments of the large Hindu population during his reign. This &#8220;ban&#8221; continued during the reign Jehangir and ShahJahan. The cow may also have been one of the triggers for the uprising against the British in 1857.</p>
<p><strong>Before we proceed any further, it would be instructive to read the <a href="http://indiankanoon.org/doc/93885/" target="_blank">judgement of the Supreme Court in the landmark case on this matter</a>, </strong>Mohd. Hanif Quareshi &amp; Others vs The State Of Bihar(&amp; Others), April, 1958 (emphasis added):</p>
<blockquote><p>So approaching and analysing the problem, <strong>we have reached the conclusion (i) that a total ban on the slaughter of cows of all ages and calves of cows and calves of she-buffaloes, male and female, is quite reasonable and valid and is in consonance with the directive principles</strong> laid down in Art. 48, (ii) that <strong>a total ban on the slaughter of she-buffaloes or breeding bulls or working bullocks (cattle as well as buffaloes) as long as they are as milch or draught cattle is also reasonable and valid</strong> and (iii) that a total ban on the slaughter of she- buffaloes, bulls and bullocks (cattle or buffalo) after they cease to be capable of yielding milk or of breeding or working as draught animals cannot be supported as reasonable in the interest of the general public.</p></blockquote>
<p>Note that while the Directive Principles are unenforceable by themselves but constitutionality of laws is usually examined in the light of directive principles.  Even stronger than the 1958 ruling, is this <a href="http://indiankanoon.org/doc/1776341/" target="_blank">conclusion from a (relatively) recent judgement by the Supreme Court (from 2005</a>) in the case of State Of Gujarat vs Mirzapur Moti Kureshi Kassab (emphasis added):</p>
<blockquote><p>In the case before us, <strong>we have material in abundance justifying the need to alter the flow of judicial opinion</strong>.…Independent India, having got rid of the shackles of foreign rule, was not even 11 years old then. Since then, the Indian economy has made much headway and gained a foothold internationally. Constitutional jurisprudence has indeed changed from what it was in 1958, as pointed out earlier. Our socio-economic scenario has progressed from being gloomy to a shining one, full of hopes and expectations and determinations for present and future. Our economy is steadily moving towards prosperity in a planned way through five year plans, nine of which have been accomplished and tenth is under way. We deal with the findings in Quareshi-I seriatim.</p>
<p>Finding 1 :…So far as the State of Gujarat is concerned, we have already noticed, while dealing with the documentary evidence available on record, that fodder shortage is not a problem so far as this state is concerned and <strong>cow progeny</strong>, the slaughtering whereof has already shown a downward trend during the recent years, <strong>can very well be fed and maintained without causing any wasteful drain on the feed</strong> requisite for active milch, breeding and draught cattle.…<strong>the documentary evidence available on record shows that beef contributes only 1.3% of the total meat consumption pattern of the Indian society</strong>. Butchers are not prohibited from slaughtering animals other than the cattle belonging to cow progeny. Consequently, only a part of their activity has been prohibited. They can continue with their activity of slaughtering other animals. <strong>Even if it results in slight inconvenience, it is liable to be ignored if the prohibition is found to be in the interest of economy and social needs of the country</strong></p>
<p>Finding 3 : <strong>47 years since, it is futile to think that meat originating from cow progeny can be the only staple food or protein diet for the poor population of the country</strong>. &#8216;…The real problem, facing India, is not the availability of food, staple food and protein rich diet; the real problem is its unequal distribution. The real challenge comes from the slow growth of purchasing power of the people and lack of adequate employment opportunities. ….It will, therefore, <strong>not be correct to say that poor will suffer in availing staple food and nutritional diet only because slaughter of cow progeny was prohibited</strong>.</p>
<p>Finding 4 :…<strong>For multiple reasons</strong> which we have stated in very many details while dealing with Question-6 in Part II of the judgment, <strong>we have found that bulls and bullocks do not become useless merely by crossing a particular age</strong>. The Statement of Objects and Reasons, apart from other evidence available, clearly conveys that cow and her progeny constitute the backbone of Indian agriculture and economy. …This Statement of Objects and Reasons tilts the balance in favour of the constitutional validity of the impugned enactment. …</p>
<p><strong>In the light of the material available in abundance before us, there is no escape from the conclusion that the protection conferred by impugned enactment on cow progeny is needed in the interest of Nation&#8217;s economy. Merely because it may cause &#8216;inconvenience&#8217; or some &#8216;dislocation&#8217; to the butchers, restriction imposed by the impugned enactment does not cease to be in the interest of the general public</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>The former must yield to the latter</strong>.…The Bombay Animal Preservation (Gujarat Amendment) Act, 1994 (Gujarat Act No. 4 of 1994) is held to be intra vires the Constitution.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Let us now look at the “rational” or “liberal” argument against a ban on cow slaughter</strong>:</p>
<p><strong>1] That Hindus ate beef in the past – as mentioned in the Vedas</strong>. The first point against this argument is the fact that there are contradictory statements within the Vedas regarding “beef eating”. Very likely, these are the result of incorrect and improper translation (e.g. <a href="http://agniveer.com/68/no-beef-in-vedas/" target="_blank">see this post on Agniveer.com</a>) and therefore cannot be relied on as being authoritative. But even if one was to assume so &#8211; for the sake of argument &#8211; this is a bad argument because not all past practices are carried over to current times (neither should they be; e.g. past practice of not dining or marrying outside the &#8220;jati&#8221;). The second (important) point to note (and ask) re. the Vedic references is: <em>are these references really laudatory &#8211; and praiseworthy &#8211; or are &#8220;beef-eaters&#8221; looked down upon?</em> Furthermore, most (all?) references are to the meat of the bull – not cow; and even of there were references to cow, they refer to a sterile cow; <a href="http://agniveer.com/3942/no-beef-in-vedas-part2/" target="_blank">also see part II of the post on Agniveer</a>)</p>
<p><strong>2] The second &#8220;liberal&#8221; argument against a ban on cow slaughter is that the state shall not dictate what I can and cannot eat</strong>; that the only reason the state can impose its views on such matters is if you harm others in this process, or if doing so will harm the environment. A good illustration of this argument is in <a href="http://sabhlokcity.com/2010/08/baba-ramdevs-irrational-demand-to-prohibit-cow-slaughter/?wpmp_tp=0" target="_blank">this post by Sanjeev Sabhlok</a> (also FTI colleague):</p>
<blockquote><p>If eating beef is not lethal and it doesn&#8217;t kill others, then there is no cause to interfere in the freedoms of others to eat beef.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now substitute “eating beef” with “taking drugs” or “having multiple wives” – and you will begin to see why this argument looks somewhat shaky. <strong>Freedom cannot be absolute – and is usually circumscribed by prevailing social norms and expectations. If such expectations overwhelmingly treat the cow as an object of reverence &#8211; or if there is general social revulsion towards slaughter of a particular animal &#8211; perhaps there is case to be made for a law banning slaughter of cows</strong><strong>?</strong></p>
<p>It is obvious that cow-slaughter arouses strong emotions in people. Bear in mind that people elect a government (in a democracy) to make/propose laws and take decisions that represent the collective will of the society (in addition to maintaining their safety and security). In a democracy, laws will usually be a manifestation of how the society wishes to govern itself (including in the form of a Constitution) &#8211; and are usually based on traditions and norms. <strong>If the society and the community wishes that the slaughter of cow ought to be prohibited in a land where it has been worshiped and held sacred for millennia, is that not a good reason for having such a law? </strong>Unless public opinion change to such a degree where such a ban becomes irrelevant?</p>
<p>I am tempted to point out that another argument (which is sometimes) used in this discussion &#8211; along the lines of <em>&#8220;let society decide on its own to not eat beef, if it so wishes, but governments should have no role to play in this</em>&#8221; &#8211; would mean government should have no role in banning untouchability or demands for dowry, right?</p>
<p>Please note that a nuanced argument can be made supporting a ban on cow-slaughter while maintaining neutrality with regards beef consumption (this would mean &#8211; for instance &#8211; that restaurants are free to import beef and serve it to their customers).  Anyway, enough food for thoughts for now, I guess. I will stop at this point &#8211; with the caveat that <strong>my thoughts on this matter are still evolving</strong>. Therefore, happy to be challenged, contradicted and of course supported!  Comments and thoughts, welcome as always</p>
<p><strong>P.S.</strong> While I am broadly supportive of the government&#8217;s bill in MP, I worry seriously about the apparent &#8220;presumption&#8221; of guilt and putting the onus on the accused to prove his or her innocence (these are also the reasons &#8211; among others &#8211; on why I worry <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2011/05/26/communal-violence/">about the Communal Violence Bill</a> and <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2011/08/01/angry-with-iac/">an all-powerful &#8220;Jan Lokpal&#8221;</a>).</p>
<p><strong>References/ Supporting Documents </strong>(the three below, courtesy Wikipedia; have not been independently verified):</p>
<ol>
<li>&#8220;Religious Nationalism, Hindus and Muslims in India&#8221;, Peter van der Veer, pp. 83 and 86, 91 and 92 ISBN 0520082567</li>
<li>&#8220;The Making of an Indian Metropolis, Colonial governance and public culture in Bombay&#8221;, 1890/1920, Prashant Kidambi, p. 176, ISBN 9780754656128</li>
<li>&#8220;Vishnu&#8217;s crowded temple, India since the great rebellion&#8221;, pp. 67-69, Maria Misra, 2008, Yale University Press, ISBN 9780300137217</li>
</ol>
<p>Here is a <a href="http://dahd.nic.in/ch1/chap1.htm#item1  " target="_blank">richly linked and referenced web-page</a> on the history and background to this question and the matter of cow slaughter</p>
<p>Here is <a href="http://konenakshatra.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/does-beef-eating-harm-the-hindu-cause/" target="_blank">an unusual case for eating beef – from a Hindu perspective</a> and a <a href="www.samarthbharat.com/holycow.htm" target="_blank">case for cow slaughter &#8211; from an economic perspective</a> (this also has an excerpt that suggests Swami Vivekananda reportedly favoured beef-consumption).</p>
<p><strong>Surprising Find of the Day</strong>: the following <a href="http://dahd.nic.in/ch1/chap1.htm#item21 " target="_blank">quote attributed to <strong>Mahatma Gandhi</strong></a> (December 1927):</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>As for me, not even to win Swaraj, will I renounce my principle of cow protection.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Related</strong> Posts: <a title="Permalink" href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/07/30/if-muslims-revered-cattle/">If Muslims revered cattle – excerpt</a> and  <strong><a title="Permanent Link to Of �Sacred Bulls�, Divinity &amp;�Development" rel="bookmark" href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/05/18/sacred-bulls-divinity-and-development/">Of &#8220;Sacred Bulls&#8221;, Divinity &amp; Development</a> </strong></p>
<p><strong></strong>Also see: <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/07/16/this-is-funny/">This is funny..</a> and the <a href="http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2008-04-27/india/27769284_1_cow-slaughter-act-islamic-seminary-darul-uloom-fatwa" target="_blank">Deoband fatwa on &#8220;beef-eating</a>&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>P.P.S.</strong> I was not aware that <a href="http://kb.rspca.org.au/Is-eating-cats-or-dogs-legal_489.html" target="_blank">certain types of meat consumption is banned in Australia</a> (so I guess Hindus are the not the only ones who are irrational!):</p>
<blockquote><p>RSPCA Australia believes the consumption of cat and dog meat should be expressly prohibited in statute. Cats and dogs hold a specific place in Australian society as companion animals. <strong>Eating cats and dogs is therefore offensive to mainstream Australian cultural values</strong>. <strong>RSPCA Australia believes that state governments should follow the lead of South Australia and create specific offences for eating cats and dogs..</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Additional (suggested) Readings: <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/09/17/vegetarianism-environment/">Eating less meat may help save the planet</a> and <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/03/25/red-meat-bad-for-you/">Eating red meat may be really bad for you..</a></p>
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		<title>Might this be the real cause of Muslim &#8220;backwardness&#8221;?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The question was prompted by these excerpts fom Salil Tripathi&#8216;s &#8220;An excuse called Rushdie&#8221; (emphasis added):
Only one out of every six Muslim children entering an Indian school stays till his matriculation. I use “his” deliberately; the figures are worse for girls—only two out of five Muslim girls enter schools, and fewer than one-tenth complete secondary education.
These stark dropout rates explain the malaise affecting Indian Muslims, and unless that’s addressed, all other solutions are ineffective. 
Such low enrolment figures and high dropout rates mean that only one of 25 undergraduate students, ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question was prompted by these excerpts fom <strong>Salil Tripathi</strong>&#8216;s &#8220;<strong><a href="http://www.livemint.com/2012/01/18213312/An-excuse-called-Rushdie.html" target="_blank">An excuse called Rushdie</a>&#8221; </strong>(emphasis added):</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Only one out of every six Muslim children entering an Indian school stays till his matriculation</strong>. I use “his” deliberately; the figures are worse for girls—<strong>only two out of five Muslim girls enter schools, and fewer than one-tenth complete secondary education</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>These stark dropout rates explain the malaise affecting Indian Muslims, and unless that’s addressed, all other solutions are ineffective. </strong></p>
<p>Such low enrolment figures and high dropout rates mean that only one of 25 undergraduate students, and barely one out of 50 postgraduate students in Indian universities, is a Muslim. India defines literacy rather generously, and yet Muslim literacy rate is only 59.1%. According to the Rajinder Sachar committee’s report in 2006, Muslim enrolment at the Indian Institutes of Management was 1.3%, and at the Indian Institutes of Technology, out of 27,161 students, only 894, or some 3.3%, were Muslim.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-12510" title="Darul Uloom Deoband" src="http://satyameva-jayate.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/Darul-Uloom-Deoband-300x295.jpg" alt="" width="108" height="106" /></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>The consequence? Inevitably restricted professional opportunities</strong>. Just about 5% of applicants for the civil service examinations are Muslim, and of the elite bureaucracy, only 3% of Indian Administrative Services, 1.8% of the Indian Foreign Service, and 4% of the Indian Police Service, are Muslim. The figures improve marginally in other government departments, but only just. Muslims form 4.5% of employees in the railways, and an astonishing 98.7% of them are employed at lower levels. In other departments, such as education, health, and transport, representation varies between 4% and 7% of the total number of employees.</p>
<p><strong>Lacking education and skills</strong>, many Muslim men and women find it hard to get jobs, and <strong>many end up being self-employed. While 44% of Muslim women are economically active (in itself a low figure) only 25% work outside their homes</strong>. Many men work in small businesses. Such jobs typically have minimal protection—no unions, poor work conditions, limited probability of training or advancement and low wages.</p>
<p><strong>Even if they become entrepreneurs, credit may be hard to access without paper qualifications</strong>. Figures bear that out: the loans that average Muslim borrowers get are smaller than the loans others get. Furthermore, between 2000 and 2006, of the Rs. 266 billion that the Small Industries Development Bank of India disbursed, Muslims received only Rs. 1.24 billion&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>And what does the government do? It <a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/opinion/edit-page/Include-madrassas-to-empower-Muslims/articleshow/11085417.cms" target="_blank">&#8220;promises&#8221; to keep madrassas outside the purview of the RTE Act</a></strong>, thus making sure that there is no move to reform and formalise madrassa education . As the report (in the link notes):</p>
<blockquote><p>Almost 90% of underprivileged Muslim children attend madrassas. However, <strong>devoid of a modern curriculum, madrassas are unable to equip these students for the contemporary job market.  This in turn limits their economic opportunities</strong>. By bringing madrassas under the provisions of the RTE Act, the Islamic seminaries will be forced to submit to universal standards and modernise.</p></blockquote>
<p>..and goes on to promise them <a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Lucknow/61-more-madrassas-to-get-govt-assistance/articleshow/6263556.cms " target="_blank">additional money from the coffers</a>. <strong>Sometimes I wonder, where is the enlightened Muslim leadership? Why does it remain silent?</strong> Do Muslims not realize that these moves are leading to further ghettoization, further alienation and widening of the chasm between a rapidly modernizing society and the Muslim community? and worse &#8211; fueling further resentment among non-Muslims?</p>
<p>P.S. Some of you may have noticed I put &#8220;backwardness&#8221; with quotes in the title. The reason is that there is scant data to support such &#8220;backwardness&#8221; &#8211; although it is increasingly taken as a &#8220;given&#8221; in any discourse on development. The <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/01/22/literacy-rates-and-first-claims/" target="_blank">reason for my doubt/scepticism is here</a>.  Comment and thoughts welcome, as always..</p>
<p><strong>Related</strong> Post: <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/01/22/literacy-rates-and-first-claims/" target="_blank">Literacy rates and “first claims”…</a> UPDATED</p>
<p><a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2006/12/02/more-on-sachar-obcs-reservations-etc/" target="_blank">More on Sachar, OBCs, reservations etc…</a> and <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2011/11/12/communal-reservations/" target="_blank">Communal Reservations via the back door?</a></p>
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		<title>In which Sanjeev takes on Narayana Murthy..</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2012/02/02/sanjeev-sabhlok-narayana-murthy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A thought-provoking extract from a post on FTI colleague Sanjeev&#8217;s blog:
I don&#8217;t know how this man Narayana Murthy gets the audacity to lecture to others about doing something.
For nine years now I have been trying to get him (or Nandan Nilikani) interested in CITIZENSHIP – namely, in the process of active participation in the affairs of their nation. Numerous email communications I&#8217;ve had with both of them ..I even met both of them. They pretend to be &#8220;supportive&#8221; of the ideas I advocate but then do nothing.
One of them even ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thought-provoking <strong><a href="http://sabhlokcity.com/2012/01/when-the-corrupt-are-your-heros-mr-murthy-why-blame-the-young/  ">extract from a post on FTI colleague Sanjeev&#8217;s blog</a></strong>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t know how this man Narayana Murthy gets the audacity to lecture to others about doing something.</p>
<p>For nine years now I have been trying to get him (or Nandan Nilikani) interested in CITIZENSHIP – namely, in the process of active participation in the affairs of their nation. Numerous email communications I&#8217;ve had with both of them ..I even met both of them. They pretend to be &#8220;supportive&#8221; of the ideas I advocate but then do nothing.</p>
<p>One of them even asked me to consider joining an existing party to which I responded that I have something valuable: self-respect. Something they don&#8217;t seem to either have or understand. Their &#8220;honesty&#8221; means nothing if it doesn&#8217;t translate into self-respect.</p>
<p>&#8230;Unfortunately (for India and for their own reputation), they don&#8217;t seem to notice any discrepancy in LECTURING others even as they sit on the sideline as smug observers.</p>
<p>&#8230;During the lecture Murthy gave a few days ago he is reported to have said that the biggest malady of the country at present was the apathy to social problems. &#8220;We feel that problems surrounding us belong to somebody else. We do not take action or rather postpone the decision&#8221;.</p>
<p>Nicely said, Mr Murthy, but SINCE WHEN HAVE YOU DONE ANYTHING ABOUT INDIA&#8217;S PROBLEMS? Only complain endlessly (or bribe the corrupt?).</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Breaking-Free-of-Nehru.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-9000" title="Breaking Free of Nehru" src="http://satyameva-jayate.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Breaking-Free-of-Nehru.jpg" alt="" width="123" height="160" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The ONLY thing I&#8217;ve seen from you in the last nine years are lectures. I&#8217;m sorry to be publicly saying this but I&#8217;ve formed the view that you are a TIGHT FISTED STINGY MAN WHO IS EITHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY SUPPORTING INDIA&#8217;S CORRUPT SOCIALIST PARTIES.</p>
<p>Why is it that you fear to build or support a political opposition that wants to fix India&#8217;s governance? Why not be a citizen instead of being a carping, stingy old man? Why is it that NOT A SINGLE PAISA has been spent by you in supporting the right cause?</p>
<p>Prior to you I met many Indian origin CEOs of IT companies in the Silicon Valley. Same result. TOTAL APATHY.</p>
<p>These are not Indians. They are BLOOD SUCKERS OF INDIA – who will exploit India for all they can but give back nothing in return. They will leave behind a WORSE INDIA than when they were born. That will be their legacy – of DO NOTHINGS.</p>
<p>In THIRTEEN years (fourteen in February 2012) since I&#8217;ve been fighting to establish a classical liberal political party in India not ONE so-called &#8220;honest&#8221; CEO has bothered to even inquire in some detail about how we can transform India.</p>
<p>And not ONE paisa spent. Not one. All hot air and mindless talk.</p>
<p>If you want your reputation to go down well in India&#8217;s history, please do something. Or BE QUIET, now. I&#8217;m getting a bit sick of all this.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Also read</strong>: <a href="http://sabhlokcity.com/2011/12/narayana-murthy-the-most-apathetic-of-them-all/">Narayana Murthy &#8211; the most apathetic of them all</a> (by Sanjeev)</p>
<p>and &#8230; <strong><a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2010/06/09/politics-fti/">On Politics, Corruption and FTI</a>, <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/02/12/why-bother-with-politics/">Why bother with politics?</a></strong> and <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/01/28/fti-comes-of-age/">FTI comes of age</a> <strong>on this blog</strong></p>
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		<title>&#8220;For God&#8217;s sake understand that we have also got some sense&#8230;&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2012/01/29/patel-communal-reservations/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
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&#8220;I once more appeal to you to forget the past…You have got what you wanted.
You have got a separate state and, remember, you are the people who were responsible for it, and not those who remain in Pakistan
What is it that you want now?

…Now again you tell me and ask me to say for the purpose of securing the affection of the younger brother I must agree to the same thing again, to divide the country again in the divided part.
For God&#8217;s sake understand that we have also got some ...]]></description>
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<h3>&#8220;I once more appeal to you to forget the past…You have got what you wanted.</h3>
<h3>You have got a separate state and, remember, you are the people who were responsible for it, and not those who remain in Pakistan</h3>
<h3>What is it that you want now?</h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Sardar-Patel.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-9616" title="Sardar Patel" src="http://satyameva-jayate.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Sardar-Patel-207x300.jpg" alt="" width="74" height="108" /></a></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: left;">…Now again you tell me and ask me to say for the purpose of securing the affection of the younger brother I must agree to the same thing again, to divide the country again in the divided part.</h3>
<h3 style="text-align: left;">For God&#8217;s sake understand that we have also got some sense&#8230;</h3>
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<p>Full context and source: <a href="http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/right-and-wrong/entry/meddling-with-nationhood  " target="_blank">Meddling with nationhood</a> by Swapan Dasgupta published 15 Jan &#8217;12</p>
<blockquote><p>The extent to which the discourse on the vexed issue of reservations has changed over the years is quite remarkable. When the Constitution was being framed, the remnants of the Muslim League argued that independent India should persist with the reservation of seats in legislatures for Muslims and other religious minorities. Predictably, in the aftermath of a Partition that many attributed to the system of separate electorates and the notorious Communal Award, the demand drew a sharp response from the Congress benches.</p>
<p>Intervening in the debate on August 28, 1947, the then home minister Sardar Patel had some harsh words for the proponents of minority reservation: &#8220;<em>I once more appeal to you to forget the past…You have got what you wanted. You have got a separate state and, remember, you are the people who were responsible for it, and not those who remain in Pakistan…What is it that you want now? In the majority Hindu provinces you, the minorities, you led the agitation…Now again you tell me and ask me to say for the purpose of securing the affection of the younger brother I must agree to the same thing again, to divide the country again in the divided part. For God&#8217;s sake understand that we have also got some sense&#8230;</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Had a politician of standing delivered a similar speech today, it is certain that the liberal media and the assembled army of secularists would have construed it as a textbook example of ahate speech.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Related</strong> Posts: <strong><a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2011/11/12/communal-reservations/" target="_blank">Communal Reservations via the back door</a></strong>?</p>
<p><a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2010/01/19/dividing-india/" target="_blank">Dividing India: One bit at a Time</a></p>
<p><a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2006/12/02/more-on-sachar-obcs-reservations-etc/" target="_blank">More on Sachar, OBCs, reservations etc…</a></p>
<p><a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/01/22/literacy-rates-and-first-claims/" target="_blank">Literacy rates and “first claims”…</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.india-seminar.com/2005/549/549%20zoya%20hassan.htm" target="_blank">Reservation for Muslims</a> by Zoya Hassan and finally, <strong><a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/05/14/rethink-on-majority-minorities/" target="_blank">A rethink on majority and minorities…</a></strong></p>
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		<title>Preparing for the Perfect Storm</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2012/01/27/perfect-storm/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While reading Swapan Dasgupta&#8217;s take on the Rushdie affair, I stumbled on these lines (emphasis added):
Those who felt offended and let down by Rushdie’s absence from Jaipur were regarded as inconsequential members of the non-voting classes.
Their protests could safely be disregarded.
It struck me that this was also the reason why the government did the shameless &#8220;dance&#8221; on Lokpal Bill.. and capitulated in the case of Rushdie.  
And then I came across this remarkable essay by Arun Shourie on Vote Banks (do read, if you have not already) in which he ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While reading <a href="http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnists/item/50914-a-victory-for-intolerance.html " target="_blank">Swapan Dasgupta&#8217;s take on the Rushdie affair</a>, I stumbled on these lines (emphasis added):</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Those who felt offended and let down by Rushdie’s absence</strong> from Jaipur <strong>were regarded as inconsequential members of the non-voting classes</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>Their protests could safely be disregarded.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p><strong></strong>It struck me that <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>this was also the reason why the government did <a href="http://www.facebook.com/SatyamevaJayate.FanPage/posts/315736518457839" target="_blank">the shameless &#8220;dance&#8221; on Lokpal Bill</a>.. and capitulated in the case of Rushdie. </strong><span style="color: #000000;"> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000000;">And t</span></span>hen I came across this <a href="http://www.indianexpress.com/news/chasing-that-bank-of-votes-again/903905/0" target="_blank">remarkable essay by Arun Shourie on Vote Banks</a> (do read, if you have not already) in which he concluded (emphasis added):</p>
<blockquote><p>Is the Party again counting on amenable judges? <strong>Or is cynicism in command again? </strong>Who cares if the courts strike down the promise later?</p>
<p><strong>By that time those who have to be fooled, would have been fooled; what is to be won, would have been won.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Isn&#8217;t it time to say enough?</strong> Time to make sure your voice is not disregarded? To make sure your protest is not un-heard? <strong>To make sure that you are not being fooled?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Make this year, the year of change ..Make 2012 the year in which we said, &#8220;Enough!&#8221; </strong>Do this by equipping yourself with information&#8230;Do this by discussing, debating and commenting in public&#8230;Make use of social media and online platforms to the hilt..One place to start is right here on this blog&#8230;especially the posts related to &#8220;<a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/category/politics-and-governance-in-india/" target="_blank">Politics and Governance in India</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>Get involved in a citizen activity, a community initiative, teach kids, educate &#8230;do something for your neighbourhood..but <strong>keep your eye on the big goal</strong>..<strong>to change the system, you will have to get involved yourself..make sure you prepare for it</strong>&#8230;So <strong><a href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150100982878722&amp;set=a.10150100982713722.273164.159522133721&amp;type=3&amp;theater" target="_blank">when the perfect storm comes, you are ready</a></strong>.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Perfect-Storm.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-13447" title="Perfect Storm" src="http://satyameva-jayate.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Perfect-Storm.jpg" alt="" width="224" height="182" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Somewhat <strong>Related</strong>: <a rel="bookmark" href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/07/09/checking-out-of-india/" target="_blank">Checking out of India – psychologically</a></p>
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