Mathematics, History and worms eating manuscripts…

This is a sad story of forgetten history, indifference towards ancient knowledge and wisdom & callous neglect…Read on.. From A search for India’s mathematical roots, some depressing excerpts (emphasis added):

K. Ramasubramanian is the head of the Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay (IIT-B) research Cell for Indian Science and Technology in Sanskrit (CISTS), the only one of its kind in the country, where doctoral students translate the work of ancient Indian scientists into English, study language technology in Sanskrit that will help computers to analyse a wide range of speech and text, and make the translation and interpretation of Sanskrit texts easy.

…“No country should allow the distortion of its own history,” said Murli Manohar Joshi, former Union minister for human resource development, who had directed all the IIT campuses to set up a CISTS in 2002. Following the directive, IIT-B appointed Kulkarni to spearhead research in Sanskrit language technology in 2003. A year later, the institute brought Ramasubramanian on board.

His students are now at different stages of translating primary Sanskrit texts (dating between the seventh and 15th centuries) of the Kerala School mathematics…All these texts work on the same principles, but work on different timescales. For instance, “Siddhanta texts help predict astronomical positions for a mahayuga (great age), which is about 4,320,000 years. The intermediate Tantra texts work with a yuga, one-tenth of that time—432,000 years. Finally, the Karna texts help quick calculations for as little as one month. My students are working with all three of these texts,” said Ramasubramanian.

…But not every member of the team has scientific training. One of them is a trained astrologer and delighted to read the future. Dinesh Mohan Joshi, (grandson of an astrologer) said: “I saw my grandfather look at kundalis (a graphical representation of planetary positions at birth that charts the life course of the baby) and makes predictions. I saw them come true. I was fascinated. I wanted to be able to do that too. So, I went to (Shri) Lal Bahadur (Shastri) Sanskrit Vidyapeeth, Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidyapeeth and became an acharya (teacher) there. Then a friend told me about this cell and I decided to come.” Unlike Bhatt, his was an uphill struggle to master the mathematics, “because I had no formal training in the subject”.

…And in Joshi’s struggle to learn mathematics, lies the biggest challenge that this venture faces, because “there just aren’t enough people who are skilled in both. If they know Sanskrit, they know little science. And if they are good scientists, they are not interested in Sanskrit or translation of Indian texts”, said Subramanian, explaining why, despite making an enormous effort, IIT has not been able to expand the cell.

Photograph of K. Ramasubramanian, courtesy: IIT Mumbai

Another challenge is of a different nature: Original manuscripts are either rotting or missing. “I had gone to find out some text related to my research at the Kerala University library of manuscripts when I found worms eating four of seven manuscripts. I bought lemongrass oil and gave it to the librarian who said they were too short staffed to look after the documents,” said Ramasubramanian, lamenting that it was the same story across the country. “We simply do not take our historical heritage, intellectual heritage seriously.”

The professors and students say they have to battle for respect in a country where history, especially the history of science has little value. “Only recently, the cell has started getting more visibility, people have begun asking us to come and talk about our work. Slowly, people are becoming interested…” Kulkarni said.

Reminded me of: Does no one remember the Hindu contribution to Mathematics? and this on the Kerala School

B Shantanu

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17 Responses

  1. As V S Naipaul so astutely says, History is too important to be left alone with Historians! Our heritage calls out to us, all of us, to take ownership of our civilizational assets, but we are too deaf to not even hear her call.

    I think this nature of initiatives should be made more powerful, and decentralized. Also more such initiatives so that it breaks down the entry barriers in the domains of History research for all those who can not pursue History as a professional career. In the last century we did have many brilliant historians who were not trained as one. Even Jadunath Sarkar started his career as an English teacher before answering the higher call.

    Shantanuji, congratulations for keeping on bringing such important initiatives to light for us.

    Thanks
    Sarvesh

  2. Sid says:

    This is the tragic part. Today those who call themselves historians do not even know the ancient languages that would make ancient documents accessible. Primary example: Romila Thapar, she did not know either Sanskrit or Prakrit or Pali, but she is still an “authority” in classical history of India. If this is the case what would you know about your history? In the past, untrained experts like JN Sarkar and Talageri have come forward and provided excellent analysis. There is no reason to expect that situation would change very soon, non experts like NS Rajaram had to struggle to find historical truth while taxpayer funded institutions like JNU/ICHR would burn money to fund the research projects which has not produced a single mm of research paper in last twenty years.

  3. Rakesh says:

    Mathematics, History and worms eating manuscripts…
    I think today we have the technology to capture the image of all the manuscripts and store it into a database.
    For this to happen we need a little bit of of sanskrit ( संस्कृत ). We simply needs the access to the manuscript ( not so simple task).

  4. Jai Joshi says:

    I find it amazing that Indian mathematicians aren’t taught the history of mathematics, since it originated in India. It only makes sense that they study Sanskrit and the ancient texts. My God, what is the matter with our countrymen? All they care about is money, not scholarship.

    I studied Sanskrit at University and found the experience invaluable. I wouldn’t trade that experience for the world because it has helped me in my chosen field of literature so much.

    Jai

  5. Ravi says:

    Santanu,

    Can you please pass on the details of the project or how to contact Shri Subrahmanian. I know people who are sanskrit and mathematics teachers, have published in this area and would be actually excited about working on something like this.
    Thanks
    Ravi

  6. JC Moola says:

    Strange instead of flourishing the knowledge in sanskrit, the guys are propagating english

  7. flawsophy says:

    This is amazing … I hope we have more awareness in form of popular media, workshops, blogs, TV to help the common-man learn about the heritage of our magnificent culture along with the usual degrees …

    thanks for letting us know, Shantanu ji …

  8. Sid says:

    @JC (#6),
    What language would they use if ninety percent of India wants to converse in English? Should they force everyone to learn Sanskrit if they want to know more about their heritage?

  9. Thanks Shantanu for this post. Last month in Dec, First Sanskrit book fair in Bharat (post independence) was held successfully in Banglore.
    Check out – http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/10-lakh-speak-language-of-the-gods/articleshow/7233408.cms.

  10. JC Moola says:

    @ Sid # 8

    Knowledge is for the seeker not for the propaganda. Preserving and propagation are different.

    90% of people do not use English by natural choice. Although I am sure not even 90% of people would understand english.

  11. Sid says:

    @Moola (#8),
    Why is preservation valuable if it can not be propagated? At present, there is no other language that is a common choice for every Indian.

    Exact percentage may be debatable but a very significant percent of educated people who are interested to know their heritage knows English well.

  12. JC Moola says:

    @Sid # 11

    On a lighter note may be propagation of knowledge leads to danger of nuke falling in hands of jehadis etc.

    Anyway, I went through the lectures of Late Sri Dixit (Associated with Baba Ramdev) on English… I am with what Sri Dixit said.

    You can see the telecast of his speeches on Astha channel.

  13. AAryan says:

    I don’t know that if this is a valid place to comment but the biggest mistake happened is declaring “Hindi” as a national language instead of “Sanskrit”.
    The analysis shows that there is 30%-60% similarity among the Sanskrit and the other Indian languages.
    Hindi has no similarity to any languages in South and East Indian languages, rather it is a sister language of Urdu.
    I believe this matter need to be further looked into and “Sanskrit” needs to be recognized as national language of India.
    This will encourage us to look into our ancient texts. It is very important to have a firsthand information of the research in Science, Medicine, Mathematics, Advanced Political Science, Astronomy, Astrology, Industry and Agriculture done in past.

    ||Namo Bhaartam, Namo Sanskritam||

  14. Sarah jacobs says:

    The kerela school and Vedic Maths by tirthaji is commendable too. I think no one has the right to distort history and steps shud be taken to restore it to its original glory.

    Sarah

  15. B Shantanu says:

    Placing these 2 links and excerpts here for the record: Sanskrit Tidbits by Bibek Debroy:
    Bhaskaracharya was a famous Indian mathematician and astronomer (1114-1185). He is also known as Bhaskara-II. Leelavati is both the name of a text (actually part of a text) that he wrote and Leelavati is also believed to have been the name of his daughter. Many of the problems are addressed to Leelavati and Leelavati also seems to have composed some of them.

    इन्द्र: वायुर्यमश्चैव नैरृतो मध्यमस्तथा ।
    ईशानश्च कुबेरश्च अग्निर्वरुण एव च ॥

    The one given above is one such, composed by Leelavati. When one learns Sanskrit, there is a problem. Words spill over into one another, following the rules of grammar. Because one doesn’t know how to break them up, one can’t understand. Once you learn how to break things up, it becomes simpler. Let me break up the one given above.

    इन्द्रो वायु: यम: च एव नैरृतः मध्यम: तथा ।
    ईशान: च कुबेर: च अग्नि: वरुण: एव च ॥

    So far, so good. But I couldn’t figure this one out. Why was this important enough to be written down in the form of a shloka? It is just the names of various gods. Actually, not just any gods. This gives the names of lokapalas. Lokapalas are protectors or guardians of the world. There are 10 directions. If you leave out above and below, there are 8. These are north, north-east, east, south-east, south, south-west, west and north-west. North, south, east and west have specific Sanskrit names as directions. But we will place that on hold. Look at the matrix below. Vayu is the guardian of the north-west, Kubera of the north, Ishana of the north-east, Indra of the east, Agni of the south-east, Yama of the south, Nairrita of the south-west and Varuna of the west. You get the idea. It is because Yama, the lord of the death, is the guardian of the south that there is a belief that you should not sleep with your feet pointing towards the south. You will offend Yama.

    Vayu Kubera Ishana
    Varuna Indra
    Nairrtta Yama Agni
    But what’s the point of the shloka? Why write out a shloka that only lists the names of the lokapalas? We know their names. Wait. Now follow the order listed by Leelavati, Indra is the first, Vayu is the second, Yama is the third and so on. Madhyama means middle, there is no guardian there. Fill in the matrix below in the order in which Leelavati has listed the names.

    2 7 6
    9 5 1
    4 3 8

    Notice anything about this? It is a 3X3 magic square, with the sums along all rows, all columns and all diagonals adding up to 15. So that’s what she was doing. She wasn’t writing down any odd shloka, she was actually constructing a magic square. Interesting? Sanskrit literature (I am using the word literature in a very broad sense) is littered with such nuggets. If we don’t learn and read Sanskrit, all this will be lost.

    and Dictionary traces maths concepts to Vedas by Jhimli Mukherjee Pandey, TNN Aug 30, 2012
    : KOLKATA: For eight years, a few mathematics and Sanskrit scholars of the Calcutta University have been working on a mammoth project. They have been trying to establish a tall claim that at least 5,000 basic and advanced modern mathematical concepts have their roots in Sanskrit and most of these have Vedic antecedents.

    At the end of this painstaking research, the first kosa or dictionary of Sanskrit to English mathematical terms is ready and there are four more to follow. This central government project is being touted as the first of its kind in the world as never before have the Indian etymology of so many modern technical terms been so radically established.

    The project was given to these scholars by the Rashtriya Sanskrit Sansthan, a wing of the ministry of human resources development, through the city-based Sanskrit Sahitya Parishat. The chief investigators of the project are retired faculty members of Jadavpur and Calcutta universities, Manabendu Banerjee and Pradip Kumar Majumdar, respectively.

    While the world gives credit to India for invention of the concept of ‘zero’, not much else in modern maths is attributed to this country. “Also, while it is generally believed that it was the fifth century AD mathematician Aryabhatta who invented zero, we have been able to establish in our project that zero or ananta was a concept as old as the Rig Veda. Similarly, eka or number one also has roots in this Veda,” explained Majumdar.

    All branches of mathematics are well represented in the Vedas, Aranyakas, Brahminical literature, Upanishads, Panini’s Ashtadhyayi and Yaska’s Nirukto, the dictionary explains. It goes on to prove that most solutions that can be arrived through algebra, geometry and trigonometry have Sanskrit roots. Thus, what the world knows as Pythagoras’ theorem existed in the Sulbasutras provided in the manuscripts of Boudhayan, Apostombo, Manaba and Katyayan. A large number of formulae developed thousands of years ago, which lead to the same assumption as modern theorems, have been provided in the dictionary, with their places of occurrence in Indian punthis.

    “Take the case of Euclid’s concepts, on which modern geometry is based. You will find that all of today’s geometric shapes and angles were present in the way the yajnabedis or the holy sacrificial fires were erected. Each design had a typical astronomical or cosmic meaning to it and a specific purpose for which the yajna was to be conducted,” explained Banerjee, who is also the former vice-president of Asiatic Society. The dictionary is replete with the designs of these yajnabedis and go on to explain their modern geometrical equivalents. The additional benefit is that the ancient custom and belief system surrounding these bedis have also been explained in the dictionary. It says that the origin of most of these designs can be found in Vedanga Jyotish of 12th century BC.

    Similarly, what the world associates with trigonometry today can be found in the ancient Indian texts. Take one of the most common formulae in Trigonometry – sin 2A = 2 sin A cos A. The dictionary explains that you can find such formulae that are used to measure area or height in the manuscripts of not one but several scholars of ancient India. The term jyotpotti (trigonometry) and the integral formulae therein can be traced back to Aryabhatta in his Siddhantasiromani, in the 12th century manuscripts of Bhaskaracharya II, in the 7th century Brahmasputasiddhanta of Brahma Gupta and in the 16th century Siddhantatattobibek of Kamalakar, the dictionary says.

  16. B Shantanu says:

    Somewhat related, from almost 20 years back: Abandoned and neglected, priceless artefacts decay in basement of Calcutta’s Indian Museum
    RUBEN BANERJEE NOVEMBER 30, 1994.

    Grateful if someone could update on present status