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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2010/05/26/doosra-sanjay-gandhi/comment-page-1/#comment-468626</link>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 16:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting vignette from TN Ninan (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/t-n-ninantalwar-amendment/478219/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Talwar Amendment&lt;/a&gt;): 

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&lt;i&gt;...a cement company to which the bank had given a loan became “sick”, with mounting losses. Seeing that the problem was mismanagement, the bank agreed to a restructuring package provided the company’s promoter, also its chairman and CEO, made way for a professional. The promoter happened to be a friend of Sanjay Gandhi. Sanjay called the finance minister (who, though unnamed, was C Subramaniam; Pranab Mukherjee was nominally under him as minister for revenue and banking), and asked him to direct the bank to waive the condition on change of management. 
The minister phoned Talwar (Chairman, SBI), who called for the details of the case, satisfied himself, and informed the minister that the condition could not be waived. The minister summoned Talwar to Delhi and told him that he had instructions from “the highest authority” in the country. Talwar stood his ground. This was communicated to Sanjay, who called for Talwar. Talwar refused to meet him, saying he had no constitutional authority. Sanjay’s response was swift: Sack Talwar.
This was easier ordered than done, because under the State Bank of India Act the chairman could not be removed without sufficient cause. So the minister offered Talwar a different assignment, to chair the proposed Banking Commission. Talwar said he would accept and could do that in addition to being the SBI chairman. The minister looked unhappy, so Talwar observed that the minister seemed to be “very particular” that Talwar not continue as the bank chairman. The minister admitted that the problem was Talwar’s lack of flexibility on the cement company issue, and said that if he did not resign, he would have to be dismissed. Talwar said he had no intention of resigning, and the minister could decide on dismissal. 
As Mr Vaghul tells it, Sanjay next asked the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to look for grounds on which Talwar could be dismissed. It turned out that Talwar had sent appeals to many businessmen, seeking donations for the Auroville project to which he was devoted. But no businessman was willing to testify that Talwar had spoken to him or tried to persuade him to make a donation. All that he had done was to forward an appeal signed by the prime minister and the secretary-general of the United Nations (U Thant), recommending the Auroville project for support. The CBI was forced to close the case.

Sanjay now lost all patience, and told the minister to amend the SBI Act so that Talwar could be dismissed without stating the reason. With opposition leaders in jail, Parliament rubber-stamped the Act’s amendment in no time. The minister told Talwar one final time that if he did not resign he would be dismissed. Talwar remained defiant. Finally, on August 4, 1976, Talwar was given 13 months’ leave and asked to hand over charge to the managing director of the bank. Even after arming itself with the required powers, the government could not bring itself to sack Talwar. Mr Vaghul records that there was hardly anyone to see off SBI’s greatest chairman that evening, so great was the atmosphere of fear at the time.&lt;/i&gt;
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Unbelievable..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting vignette from TN Ninan (<a href="http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/t-n-ninantalwar-amendment/478219/" rel="nofollow">The Talwar Amendment</a>): </p>
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<i>&#8230;a cement company to which the bank had given a loan became “sick”, with mounting losses. Seeing that the problem was mismanagement, the bank agreed to a restructuring package provided the company’s promoter, also its chairman and CEO, made way for a professional. The promoter happened to be a friend of Sanjay Gandhi. Sanjay called the finance minister (who, though unnamed, was C Subramaniam; Pranab Mukherjee was nominally under him as minister for revenue and banking), and asked him to direct the bank to waive the condition on change of management.<br />
The minister phoned Talwar (Chairman, SBI), who called for the details of the case, satisfied himself, and informed the minister that the condition could not be waived. The minister summoned Talwar to Delhi and told him that he had instructions from “the highest authority” in the country. Talwar stood his ground. This was communicated to Sanjay, who called for Talwar. Talwar refused to meet him, saying he had no constitutional authority. Sanjay’s response was swift: Sack Talwar.<br />
This was easier ordered than done, because under the State Bank of India Act the chairman could not be removed without sufficient cause. So the minister offered Talwar a different assignment, to chair the proposed Banking Commission. Talwar said he would accept and could do that in addition to being the SBI chairman. The minister looked unhappy, so Talwar observed that the minister seemed to be “very particular” that Talwar not continue as the bank chairman. The minister admitted that the problem was Talwar’s lack of flexibility on the cement company issue, and said that if he did not resign, he would have to be dismissed. Talwar said he had no intention of resigning, and the minister could decide on dismissal.<br />
As Mr Vaghul tells it, Sanjay next asked the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to look for grounds on which Talwar could be dismissed. It turned out that Talwar had sent appeals to many businessmen, seeking donations for the Auroville project to which he was devoted. But no businessman was willing to testify that Talwar had spoken to him or tried to persuade him to make a donation. All that he had done was to forward an appeal signed by the prime minister and the secretary-general of the United Nations (U Thant), recommending the Auroville project for support. The CBI was forced to close the case.</p>
<p>Sanjay now lost all patience, and told the minister to amend the SBI Act so that Talwar could be dismissed without stating the reason. With opposition leaders in jail, Parliament rubber-stamped the Act’s amendment in no time. The minister told Talwar one final time that if he did not resign he would be dismissed. Talwar remained defiant. Finally, on August 4, 1976, Talwar was given 13 months’ leave and asked to hand over charge to the managing director of the bank. Even after arming itself with the required powers, the government could not bring itself to sack Talwar. Mr Vaghul records that there was hardly anyone to see off SBI’s greatest chairman that evening, so great was the atmosphere of fear at the time.</i><br />
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Unbelievable..</p>
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		<title>By: Smuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indian electorate, at least educated electorate understand the need of family planning. Perhaps the idea was right but the execution was wrong. The young India which I belong to, understand the urgency to going back to sustainable level of population. 
Procreation without limit in a world with finite resource is not a birth right. If stopping a human being from from having more than 2 child is a human rights violation, a greater violation of human right would be to let a big family suffer in poverty and illiteracy. Imagine being born as the 5th child of a poor farmer in a drought year - is that the right way to start your life as a human being? A caste, religion, affluence independent birth control policy is urgently needed.

Family planning apart, the young India would not let any unelected representative to wield the kind of power and influence that Sanjay Gandhi enjoyed in his time before he was elected as MP.

But I suspect that the reason why BJP is projecting Varun Gandhi as the 2nd Sanjay gandhi being two fold:
a) A young &quot;Gandhi&quot; name to unite an increasingly directionless party.
b) To use Varun to promote family planning policy like his father, but for a skewed, targeted motive of containing Muslim population. Hindu birthrate is decreasing outside the cow-belt, and with it, the traditional vote-bank of the BJP. BJP realises that implementing birth control would somehow even things up between various religious groups. This is similar to the mindset of the Catholic leadership in Europe who are encouraging large Christian families in Europe since Christian birthrate in Europe is small compared to Muslims, and in 50 years, Muslims would be sizable in Europe and with it, influence, money and power of the Vatican will shrink.
So BJP&#039;s sudden promotion of Varun in the image of Sanjay is not due to the reason that they understand the importance of family planning, but they undetrstand that Hindu majority in many regions are in threat. GOOD plan, WRONG motive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indian electorate, at least educated electorate understand the need of family planning. Perhaps the idea was right but the execution was wrong. The young India which I belong to, understand the urgency to going back to sustainable level of population.<br />
Procreation without limit in a world with finite resource is not a birth right. If stopping a human being from from having more than 2 child is a human rights violation, a greater violation of human right would be to let a big family suffer in poverty and illiteracy. Imagine being born as the 5th child of a poor farmer in a drought year &#8211; is that the right way to start your life as a human being? A caste, religion, affluence independent birth control policy is urgently needed.</p>
<p>Family planning apart, the young India would not let any unelected representative to wield the kind of power and influence that Sanjay Gandhi enjoyed in his time before he was elected as MP.</p>
<p>But I suspect that the reason why BJP is projecting Varun Gandhi as the 2nd Sanjay gandhi being two fold:<br />
a) A young &#8220;Gandhi&#8221; name to unite an increasingly directionless party.<br />
b) To use Varun to promote family planning policy like his father, but for a skewed, targeted motive of containing Muslim population. Hindu birthrate is decreasing outside the cow-belt, and with it, the traditional vote-bank of the BJP. BJP realises that implementing birth control would somehow even things up between various religious groups. This is similar to the mindset of the Catholic leadership in Europe who are encouraging large Christian families in Europe since Christian birthrate in Europe is small compared to Muslims, and in 50 years, Muslims would be sizable in Europe and with it, influence, money and power of the Vatican will shrink.<br />
So BJP&#8217;s sudden promotion of Varun in the image of Sanjay is not due to the reason that they understand the importance of family planning, but they undetrstand that Hindu majority in many regions are in threat. GOOD plan, WRONG motive.</p>
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		<title>By: Khandu Patel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khandu Patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sanjay Gandhi is of the past and different era. To judge him by the standards of today and with hindsight is not a profitable exercise. When it is looking very much likely that Rahul Gandhi will be inheriting the PM berth post MMS and no challenger in sight, it does look like Varun Gandhi has to be considered as one of the alternatives. The BJP itself has become a cabal of has beens. Neither is this state of affairs healthy for democracy. Whatever Sanjay Gandhi&#039;s fault, I see everything in support of Varun Gandhi working with the BJP. The BJP has become as dynastic as any other parties in India, but that is a reflection of the poverty of India that it sees no other leaders than time honoured gods. I am inclined to give Varun Gandhi his chance. But it is beyond political garnering of votes that he needs to prove himself to overcome the other Gandhi, Rahul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanjay Gandhi is of the past and different era. To judge him by the standards of today and with hindsight is not a profitable exercise. When it is looking very much likely that Rahul Gandhi will be inheriting the PM berth post MMS and no challenger in sight, it does look like Varun Gandhi has to be considered as one of the alternatives. The BJP itself has become a cabal of has beens. Neither is this state of affairs healthy for democracy. Whatever Sanjay Gandhi&#8217;s fault, I see everything in support of Varun Gandhi working with the BJP. The BJP has become as dynastic as any other parties in India, but that is a reflection of the poverty of India that it sees no other leaders than time honoured gods. I am inclined to give Varun Gandhi his chance. But it is beyond political garnering of votes that he needs to prove himself to overcome the other Gandhi, Rahul.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shantanu,
So the favourite court historian of Gandhi family finally decided to ditch the old friend to embrace the new God!! Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantanu,<br />
So the favourite court historian of Gandhi family finally decided to ditch the old friend to embrace the new God!! Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2010/05/26/doosra-sanjay-gandhi/comment-page-1/#comment-104387</link>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding this here for the record:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100911/jsp/opinion/story_12916060.jsp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WHAT DEMOCRATS HOPE
- The living legacy of Sanjay Gandhi&lt;/a&gt; by Ramachandra Guha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding this here for the record:  <a href="http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100911/jsp/opinion/story_12916060.jsp" rel="nofollow">WHAT DEMOCRATS HOPE<br />
- The living legacy of Sanjay Gandhi</a> by Ramachandra Guha</p>
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