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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 16:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear All: I have been getting a large number of irrelevant comments on this and some other threads for the past few days. 

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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shantanu: I did see your slides. The part which I found most amusing was the one titled &quot;possible solutions&quot;. Its amusing because its the kind of solutions that China would want of Tibet.

Nowhere in that list of &quot;solutions&quot; do you even consider what the people of the region that you talk about, want! Your solutions is basically to remove even the little autonomy that Kashmir has, and to swallow the whole land in the name of &quot;Indian Nationalism&quot;. I am pretty sure that there exists your exact counterparts, in China giving similar solutions to the &quot;Tibetan Problem&quot;.

Your &quot;solutions&quot; as indeed your narration of the history of the issue, reveal that for &quot;nationalists&quot; like you, Kashmir is simply &quot;our property&quot;, which others (meaning the people living there) are trying to take away from us.

Unfortunately for you, the Kashmiris do not seem to be content with being treated as a property, or as tenants on a land which basically &quot;belongs to India&quot;.

Coming to your narration of the history of Kashmir, nowhere did you mention that whenever Kashmiri leaders like Sheikh Abdullah showed any signs of not accepting the merger to India, they was arrested.

Nowhere do you mention the disgusting record of the Indian military in the valley , as has been well documented by several Human rights organizations,

- the number of people killed at the hands of the Indian Military, the number of people who have simply dissapeared, and the women raped, children with sling shots being shot dead.

You either do not know that several mass graves have been discovered in the valley, of people who have been kidnapped by the Indian military, or you choose to be silent about it, because they all have to be terrorists of course, by definition.


But of course, Human rights organizations are trust worthy only when they speak against the Chinese and Pakistanis, not when they talk about &quot;we- the peace loving people&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantanu: I did see your slides. The part which I found most amusing was the one titled &#8220;possible solutions&#8221;. Its amusing because its the kind of solutions that China would want of Tibet.</p>
<p>Nowhere in that list of &#8220;solutions&#8221; do you even consider what the people of the region that you talk about, want! Your solutions is basically to remove even the little autonomy that Kashmir has, and to swallow the whole land in the name of &#8220;Indian Nationalism&#8221;. I am pretty sure that there exists your exact counterparts, in China giving similar solutions to the &#8220;Tibetan Problem&#8221;.</p>
<p>Your &#8220;solutions&#8221; as indeed your narration of the history of the issue, reveal that for &#8220;nationalists&#8221; like you, Kashmir is simply &#8220;our property&#8221;, which others (meaning the people living there) are trying to take away from us.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for you, the Kashmiris do not seem to be content with being treated as a property, or as tenants on a land which basically &#8220;belongs to India&#8221;.</p>
<p>Coming to your narration of the history of Kashmir, nowhere did you mention that whenever Kashmiri leaders like Sheikh Abdullah showed any signs of not accepting the merger to India, they was arrested.</p>
<p>Nowhere do you mention the disgusting record of the Indian military in the valley , as has been well documented by several Human rights organizations,</p>
<p>- the number of people killed at the hands of the Indian Military, the number of people who have simply dissapeared, and the women raped, children with sling shots being shot dead.</p>
<p>You either do not know that several mass graves have been discovered in the valley, of people who have been kidnapped by the Indian military, or you choose to be silent about it, because they all have to be terrorists of course, by definition.</p>
<p>But of course, Human rights organizations are trust worthy only when they speak against the Chinese and Pakistanis, not when they talk about &#8220;we- the peace loving people&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby: Good try but I am not getting trapped in this debate..
There are 75+ comments on this post and 60+ articles on this blog on Jammu &amp; Kashmir. 

Since you keep harping on &quot;mandate&quot; and &quot;referendum&quot;, it appears to me that you have not bothered to look at the slides mentioned in my comment (let alone the links provided in the posts and other comments) 

Your usage of phrases like a &quot;million troops to keep Kashmir&quot; and &quot;Occupation&quot; (with a capitalised &quot;O&quot;!) betray your bias and slant (no mention of the fact that Kashmir borders a *very* hostile neighbour; no mention of the source for the troop numbers; their deployments etc etc).

If you have already made up your mind to believe something, it is going to be hard for anyone to change it. I will stop here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby: Good try but I am not getting trapped in this debate..<br />
There are 75+ comments on this post and 60+ articles on this blog on Jammu &amp; Kashmir. </p>
<p>Since you keep harping on &#8220;mandate&#8221; and &#8220;referendum&#8221;, it appears to me that you have not bothered to look at the slides mentioned in my comment (let alone the links provided in the posts and other comments) </p>
<p>Your usage of phrases like a &#8220;million troops to keep Kashmir&#8221; and &#8220;Occupation&#8221; (with a capitalised &#8220;O&#8221;!) betray your bias and slant (no mention of the fact that Kashmir borders a *very* hostile neighbour; no mention of the source for the troop numbers; their deployments etc etc).</p>
<p>If you have already made up your mind to believe something, it is going to be hard for anyone to change it. I will stop here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“That’s funny. Last I heard there was a certain young man called Omar Abdulah heading the government in Srinagar..and he was elected.”

Yeah, just like we had elections in the 1930′s under the British rule.

About Kashmir belonging to Kashmiris, I think its a truism that no organization or country or institution has any right to control or force people to “belong” to that organization or country or institution, or for that matter accept laws framed by them, unless that right is given to them by the mandate of the people.

This is clearly not the case here- If India needs close to a million troops to keep Kashmir with itself then thats clearly Occupation. The mandate was precisely what a referendum would have given, and thats what is being denied to them.

Statements like “Kashmir historically belonged to us”, shows an utter contempt of democracy and the right of people to choose for themselves their political future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“That’s funny. Last I heard there was a certain young man called Omar Abdulah heading the government in Srinagar..and he was elected.”</p>
<p>Yeah, just like we had elections in the 1930′s under the British rule.</p>
<p>About Kashmir belonging to Kashmiris, I think its a truism that no organization or country or institution has any right to control or force people to “belong” to that organization or country or institution, or for that matter accept laws framed by them, unless that right is given to them by the mandate of the people.</p>
<p>This is clearly not the case here- If India needs close to a million troops to keep Kashmir with itself then thats clearly Occupation. The mandate was precisely what a referendum would have given, and thats what is being denied to them.</p>
<p>Statements like “Kashmir historically belonged to us”, shows an utter contempt of democracy and the right of people to choose for themselves their political future.</p>
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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2010/01/10/chomsky-kashmir/comment-page-2/#comment-159294</link>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby: Pl read some history and try and understand the basic concept of state and nationnhood before saying things like &quot;&lt;em&gt;Kashmir &quot;belongs&quot; only to Kashmiris&lt;/em&gt;&quot;. 

For the real background on Kashmir - including the &quot;referendum&quot;, have a look at these slides: Jammu &amp; Kashmir LSE Mar &#039;11 http://slidesha.re/ew9Gvm

Re. &quot;&lt;em&gt;The fact is that Kashmir is occupied by India by force&lt;/em&gt;&quot; - That&#039;s funny. Last I heard there was a certain young man called Omar Abdulah heading the government in Srinagar..and he was elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby: Pl read some history and try and understand the basic concept of state and nationnhood before saying things like &#8220;<em>Kashmir &#8220;belongs&#8221; only to Kashmiris</em>&#8220;. </p>
<p>For the real background on Kashmir &#8211; including the &#8220;referendum&#8221;, have a look at these slides: Jammu &#038; Kashmir LSE Mar &#8217;11 <a href="http://slidesha.re/ew9Gvm" rel="nofollow">http://slidesha.re/ew9Gvm</a></p>
<p>Re. &#8220;<em>The fact is that Kashmir is occupied by India by force</em>&#8221; &#8211; That&#8217;s funny. Last I heard there was a certain young man called Omar Abdulah heading the government in Srinagar..and he was elected.</p>
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