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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/12/09/hindu-kings-monasteries/comment-page-1/#comment-111575</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hsuen Tsang&#039;s contention, from hearsay, that the Shaiva king Shashank had persecuted Buddhists and felled the Bodhi tree, also goes unquestioned. Yet, his story is just visibly untrustworthy : he claims that a replanted sapling of the Bodhi tree (which, from his story, must have been felled only a few years before his own arrival) miraculously grew overnight into a mature tree. Remember that secularist historians reject myths and irrational beliefs? What Hsuen Tsang got to see with his own eyes was a tree far bigger than a recently replanted sapling could have been: an indication that the tree had never been felled in the first place. Yet, so many secularist history books go on declaring that &quot;fanatical Shashank felled the Bodhi tree&quot;, in defiance of proper historical criticism.86

When it comes to dealing with the history of persecution and temple destruction by the Muslims, secularist historians throw all regard for hard evidence to the wind and replace it with a purely deductive (which is typically medieval) approach : Islam is tolerant, therefore the destruction and persecution cannot have taken place.

http://www.voiceofdharma.com/books/ayodhya/ch8.htm&quot;

&quot;1. She has suppressed the fact, stated by Huen Tsang, that Mihîrakula had requested the Buddhist Sangha to teach him the tenets of Buddhism. The Sangha did not assign the task to a qualified teacher but sent a monk who had the rank of a servant. Mihîrakula felt outraged at this insult and persecuted the Buddhists. It is highly doubtful if this HûNa tyrant had become a Šaiva. KalhaNa sees him only as a HûNa extending patronage to bad BrãhmaNas. But even if he had, his fury had nothing to do with Šaivism. On the contrary, it was the fury of a tyrant whose ego had been hurt. Kashmir had known many Šaiva kings before Mihîrakula as well as after him. None of them is known to have persecuted the Buddhists. In fact, most of them are known to have been patrons of Buddhism. The only instance she cites is that of a king who repented and rebuilt the vihãra which he had pulled down in a fit of anger. We should welcome a similar instance of some Muslim ruler who repented and rebuilt the temple he had demolished. The difference arises because while it was a temporary lapse on the part of the Kashmiran king, Muslim rulers were inspired by a permanently prescribed theology. 

http://www.voiceofdharma.com/books/htemples2/app4.htm&quot;

More info:

http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/ayodhya/pushyamitra.html

http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/ayodhya/harshakashmir.html

On a side note the word Muslim invaders used for themselves butshikan or idol breaker which is derived from them smashing Buddhist idols throughout Central Asia before invading India.

Also read up lama taranatha&#039;s writings where he shows some understanding of the fanaticism inherent in Islam. He was aware of the Muslim destruction of the Buddhists and laments that the worshippers of Ishvara (i.e Astika&#039;s) like the nAtha&#039;s did not band together with the Buddhists to fight the Muslim invaders, precisely what historical instances he means by this I am not sure about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hsuen Tsang&#8217;s contention, from hearsay, that the Shaiva king Shashank had persecuted Buddhists and felled the Bodhi tree, also goes unquestioned. Yet, his story is just visibly untrustworthy : he claims that a replanted sapling of the Bodhi tree (which, from his story, must have been felled only a few years before his own arrival) miraculously grew overnight into a mature tree. Remember that secularist historians reject myths and irrational beliefs? What Hsuen Tsang got to see with his own eyes was a tree far bigger than a recently replanted sapling could have been: an indication that the tree had never been felled in the first place. Yet, so many secularist history books go on declaring that &#8220;fanatical Shashank felled the Bodhi tree&#8221;, in defiance of proper historical criticism.86</p>
<p>When it comes to dealing with the history of persecution and temple destruction by the Muslims, secularist historians throw all regard for hard evidence to the wind and replace it with a purely deductive (which is typically medieval) approach : Islam is tolerant, therefore the destruction and persecution cannot have taken place.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.voiceofdharma.com/books/ayodhya/ch8.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.voiceofdharma.com/books/ayodhya/ch8.htm</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;1. She has suppressed the fact, stated by Huen Tsang, that Mihîrakula had requested the Buddhist Sangha to teach him the tenets of Buddhism. The Sangha did not assign the task to a qualified teacher but sent a monk who had the rank of a servant. Mihîrakula felt outraged at this insult and persecuted the Buddhists. It is highly doubtful if this HûNa tyrant had become a Šaiva. KalhaNa sees him only as a HûNa extending patronage to bad BrãhmaNas. But even if he had, his fury had nothing to do with Šaivism. On the contrary, it was the fury of a tyrant whose ego had been hurt. Kashmir had known many Šaiva kings before Mihîrakula as well as after him. None of them is known to have persecuted the Buddhists. In fact, most of them are known to have been patrons of Buddhism. The only instance she cites is that of a king who repented and rebuilt the vihãra which he had pulled down in a fit of anger. We should welcome a similar instance of some Muslim ruler who repented and rebuilt the temple he had demolished. The difference arises because while it was a temporary lapse on the part of the Kashmiran king, Muslim rulers were inspired by a permanently prescribed theology. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.voiceofdharma.com/books/htemples2/app4.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.voiceofdharma.com/books/htemples2/app4.htm</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>More info:</p>
<p><a href="http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/ayodhya/pushyamitra.html" rel="nofollow">http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/ayodhya/pushyamitra.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/ayodhya/harshakashmir.html" rel="nofollow">http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/ayodhya/harshakashmir.html</a></p>
<p>On a side note the word Muslim invaders used for themselves butshikan or idol breaker which is derived from them smashing Buddhist idols throughout Central Asia before invading India.</p>
<p>Also read up lama taranatha&#8217;s writings where he shows some understanding of the fanaticism inherent in Islam. He was aware of the Muslim destruction of the Buddhists and laments that the worshippers of Ishvara (i.e Astika&#8217;s) like the nAtha&#8217;s did not band together with the Buddhists to fight the Muslim invaders, precisely what historical instances he means by this I am not sure about.</p>
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		<title>By: nayna</title>
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		<dc:creator>nayna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s too long for me to read.............ugh (yawn)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s too long for me to read&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.ugh (yawn)</p>
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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ashok: Thanks...I have not been to Kolkata in a very long time (many years) but hope to be there later this year...&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/satyamevajayate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Follow me on twitter&lt;/a&gt; to get more regular updates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ashok: Thanks&#8230;I have not been to Kolkata in a very long time (many years) but hope to be there later this year&#8230;<a href="http://twitter.com/satyamevajayate/" rel="nofollow">Follow me on twitter</a> to get more regular updates.</p>
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		<title>By: ashok</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shantanu!! A wonderful blog. Is there a way to meet you. Are you located in Kolkata??

     Marxist are a wonderful tribe; a vanishing tribe ;vanishing under its own queer and laughable contradictions. The saviours of the undertroden are being hated by the undertrodden who beg them to leave them alon

       Marxists are the only tribe which besides telling lies to all tells lies to itself; self delusion

      And where is the doubt of destruction by fantic islamists of Budhist monuments. Why are we looking in past. See in the TV age the live destruction of Bamia Budhas in Afganistan. O judgement though art fled to the brutish beasts and men have lost their reason. Do you still require more proof Mr Singhvi.

      Thanks to the blogging. Frauds like Singhvi stand exposed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantanu!! A wonderful blog. Is there a way to meet you. Are you located in Kolkata??</p>
<p>     Marxist are a wonderful tribe; a vanishing tribe ;vanishing under its own queer and laughable contradictions. The saviours of the undertroden are being hated by the undertrodden who beg them to leave them alon</p>
<p>       Marxists are the only tribe which besides telling lies to all tells lies to itself; self delusion</p>
<p>      And where is the doubt of destruction by fantic islamists of Budhist monuments. Why are we looking in past. See in the TV age the live destruction of Bamia Budhas in Afganistan. O judgement though art fled to the brutish beasts and men have lost their reason. Do you still require more proof Mr Singhvi.</p>
<p>      Thanks to the blogging. Frauds like Singhvi stand exposed</p>
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		<title>By: Salil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@shaan

I&#039;m with you on the argument about destruction of Buddhist stupas/monasteries by Hindu kings as against those by Muslim invaders. But am in disagreement with the Harsha-Buddhist part, although I agree to not deviate into minute details unrelated to the topic.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m with you on the argument about destruction of Buddhist stupas/monasteries by Hindu kings as against those by Muslim invaders. But am in disagreement with the Harsha-Buddhist part, although I agree to not deviate into minute details unrelated to the topic.</p>
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