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		<title>By: Pranav</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/11/24/harit-desh-2/comment-page-1/#comment-379748</link>
		<dc:creator>Pranav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>factcheck has raised some very important issues which initially appear to  question &lt;b&gt;the basic thinking behind this post&lt;/b&gt; but actually questions &lt;b&gt;the basic thinking of the website,its followers,commentators &amp; its owner/moderator&lt;/b&gt;.                                             

&lt;i&gt;In all this concern about Muslims becoming radicalized&lt;/i&gt;
First of all this post is NOT about ALL Muslims becoming radicalized but about separatist Muslim intellectuals,liberals,Ulema,madrasas,politicians &amp; self-hating Hindus (like Ajit Singh,Amaresh Misra &amp; Ram Punyani)

&lt;i&gt;have you realized that you folks have become extremely radicalized yourself?!&lt;/i&gt;
Every radicalization is not bad.If a man thinks all humans are equal then that is good radicalization but if he thinks that only  Muslims are equal &amp; all other humans are evil then that&#039;s bad radicalization. 
The site owner &amp; followers are good radicals while the separatist Muslim intellectuals,liberals,Ulema,madrasas,politicians &amp; self-hating Hindus are bad radicals.

&lt;i&gt;Just check with the jihadis, they have a similar list of deeply held grievances too. And in your propaganda, both of your class use the same tools- generalization, paranoia of the mainstream, conspiracy theories about media, etc.How do you distinguish yourself from the base divisive passions of the jihadi?  And btw, nothing Dharma about what you are doing&lt;/i&gt;
Basic thinking of a jihadi- only  Muslims are equal &amp; all other humans are evil.It is from this core idea that he generalizes, has a paranoia of liberal mainstream &amp; floats conspiracy theories about liberal media.One of the basics of the owner of this site &amp; its followers is to counter such jihadis because we believe in the foundation of dharma- All humans are equal.

&lt;i&gt;the liberal West&lt;/i&gt;
The very fact that &quot;westerners&quot; call themselves as &quot;West&quot; instead of calling themselves as simply humans shows that they believe in liberty only amongst themselves &amp; this shows that they are really not liberal but very intolerant.

&lt;i&gt;yet you post and give others the opportunity to post as if you are a fringe hate group?&lt;/i&gt;
The site owner &amp; commentators want the fringe hate  group of separatist Muslim intellectuals,liberals,Ulema,madrasas,politicians &amp; self-hating Hindus to love all humans alike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>factcheck has raised some very important issues which initially appear to  question <b>the basic thinking behind this post</b> but actually questions <b>the basic thinking of the website,its followers,commentators &amp; its owner/moderator</b>.                                             </p>
<p><i>In all this concern about Muslims becoming radicalized</i><br />
First of all this post is NOT about ALL Muslims becoming radicalized but about separatist Muslim intellectuals,liberals,Ulema,madrasas,politicians &amp; self-hating Hindus (like Ajit Singh,Amaresh Misra &amp; Ram Punyani)</p>
<p><i>have you realized that you folks have become extremely radicalized yourself?!</i><br />
Every radicalization is not bad.If a man thinks all humans are equal then that is good radicalization but if he thinks that only  Muslims are equal &amp; all other humans are evil then that&#8217;s bad radicalization.<br />
The site owner &amp; followers are good radicals while the separatist Muslim intellectuals,liberals,Ulema,madrasas,politicians &amp; self-hating Hindus are bad radicals.</p>
<p><i>Just check with the jihadis, they have a similar list of deeply held grievances too. And in your propaganda, both of your class use the same tools- generalization, paranoia of the mainstream, conspiracy theories about media, etc.How do you distinguish yourself from the base divisive passions of the jihadi?  And btw, nothing Dharma about what you are doing</i><br />
Basic thinking of a jihadi- only  Muslims are equal &amp; all other humans are evil.It is from this core idea that he generalizes, has a paranoia of liberal mainstream &amp; floats conspiracy theories about liberal media.One of the basics of the owner of this site &amp; its followers is to counter such jihadis because we believe in the foundation of dharma- All humans are equal.</p>
<p><i>the liberal West</i><br />
The very fact that &#8220;westerners&#8221; call themselves as &#8220;West&#8221; instead of calling themselves as simply humans shows that they believe in liberty only amongst themselves &amp; this shows that they are really not liberal but very intolerant.</p>
<p><i>yet you post and give others the opportunity to post as if you are a fringe hate group?</i><br />
The site owner &amp; commentators want the fringe hate  group of separatist Muslim intellectuals,liberals,Ulema,madrasas,politicians &amp; self-hating Hindus to love all humans alike.</p>
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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/11/24/harit-desh-2/comment-page-1/#comment-63183</link>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 07:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A relevant extract re. the situation in Assam mentioned above. From &lt;a href=&quot;http://offstumped.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/islamic-vote-bank-politics-ominous-portents-for-india/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Islamic Vote Bank Politics – Ominous Portents for India&lt;/a&gt;:

For years despite practising a brand of politics that favored Muslims through unapologetic minorytism, parties like the Congress and more recently regional outfits like Mulayam Singh Yadav’s Samajwadi Party in Uttar Pradesh, UP and Lalu Yadav’s Rashtriya Janatad Dal, RJD in Bihar, never really had a consolidated bloc of Muslim Voters they could rely on elections after elections. Sensing an opportunity in exposing the hollow minorytism practised by the likes of Congress, SP, RJD and more specifically AGP in Assam, a group of muslim outfits under the leadership of a Businessman turned Politician Badruddin Ajmal formed the Assam United Democratic Front or AUDF.

The Ajmal experiment in Assam paid off rich dividends with the AUDF contesting in 69 seats and winning 10, contrast this with the BJP contesting 125 seats and also winning only 10. What is astounding is the vote percentages with which the AUDF supported Muslim candidates won the elections in these 10 seats. For example in Bilasipara West in Assam the total turnout was 82%, which is very high for any election in India, however the winning Muslim candidate from AUDF polled only 24% of the votes. In Katigora which had nearly 70% voter turnout, the winning Muslim candidate from AUDF polled only 37%. Badruddin Ajmal himself in Jamunamukh which had a voter turnout close to 80% polled less than 50%. The story is pretty much the same in the rest of the seats save a couple. The lesson from Assam seems to be that despite a fragmented polity, there was sufficient consolidation of Muslim votes behind an upapologetically Muslim Political Outfit to ensure electoral victory despite very high overall voter turnouts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A relevant extract re. the situation in Assam mentioned above. From <a href="http://offstumped.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/islamic-vote-bank-politics-ominous-portents-for-india/" rel="nofollow">Islamic Vote Bank Politics – Ominous Portents for India</a>:</p>
<p>For years despite practising a brand of politics that favored Muslims through unapologetic minorytism, parties like the Congress and more recently regional outfits like Mulayam Singh Yadav’s Samajwadi Party in Uttar Pradesh, UP and Lalu Yadav’s Rashtriya Janatad Dal, RJD in Bihar, never really had a consolidated bloc of Muslim Voters they could rely on elections after elections. Sensing an opportunity in exposing the hollow minorytism practised by the likes of Congress, SP, RJD and more specifically AGP in Assam, a group of muslim outfits under the leadership of a Businessman turned Politician Badruddin Ajmal formed the Assam United Democratic Front or AUDF.</p>
<p>The Ajmal experiment in Assam paid off rich dividends with the AUDF contesting in 69 seats and winning 10, contrast this with the BJP contesting 125 seats and also winning only 10. What is astounding is the vote percentages with which the AUDF supported Muslim candidates won the elections in these 10 seats. For example in Bilasipara West in Assam the total turnout was 82%, which is very high for any election in India, however the winning Muslim candidate from AUDF polled only 24% of the votes. In Katigora which had nearly 70% voter turnout, the winning Muslim candidate from AUDF polled only 37%. Badruddin Ajmal himself in Jamunamukh which had a voter turnout close to 80% polled less than 50%. The story is pretty much the same in the rest of the seats save a couple. The lesson from Assam seems to be that despite a fragmented polity, there was sufficient consolidation of Muslim votes behind an upapologetically Muslim Political Outfit to ensure electoral victory despite very high overall voter turnouts.</p>
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		<title>By: संदीप नारायण शेळके</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/11/24/harit-desh-2/comment-page-1/#comment-51144</link>
		<dc:creator>संदीप नारायण शेळके</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another farcical statement by of the websites claiming to show reality of Bharat Bhumi. Excerpts:
&lt;i&gt;&quot;Arrival of Islam and interaction with Greece, Arabia, Persia and Central Asia further enriched life, which can be discerned even in aspects like architecture and irrigation technology. Literature was also greatly influenced by these movements.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mapsofindia.com/india/india.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Who is India&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

Who gave right to falsify  and distort the history for their own need and greed?

Jai Hind!
&lt;a href=&quot;http://krishidesh.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;कृषीदेश&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another farcical statement by of the websites claiming to show reality of Bharat Bhumi. Excerpts:<br />
<i>&#8220;Arrival of Islam and interaction with Greece, Arabia, Persia and Central Asia further enriched life, which can be discerned even in aspects like architecture and irrigation technology. Literature was also greatly influenced by these movements.&#8221;</i><br />
<a href="http://www.mapsofindia.com/india/india.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Who is India&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Who gave right to falsify  and distort the history for their own need and greed?</p>
<p>Jai Hind!<br />
<a href="http://krishidesh.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">कृषीदेश</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kaffir</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/11/24/harit-desh-2/comment-page-1/#comment-50939</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaffir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>=&gt;
&lt;i&gt;I know several of your commentators will be itching to call me all sorts of pretty labels, of ignoring obvious dangers, the writing on the wall etc, but I know and appreciate those arguments quite well.&lt;/i&gt;
=&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Dhanya ho mere bhaag&lt;/i&gt;!! Finally, I come across someone - even if on the internet - who is blessed with &lt;i&gt;divya drishti&lt;/i&gt;.

Or merely projecting/wishful thinking? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>=&gt;<br />
<i>I know several of your commentators will be itching to call me all sorts of pretty labels, of ignoring obvious dangers, the writing on the wall etc, but I know and appreciate those arguments quite well.</i><br />
=&gt;</p>
<p><i>Dhanya ho mere bhaag</i>!! Finally, I come across someone &#8211; even if on the internet &#8211; who is blessed with <i>divya drishti</i>.</p>
<p>Or merely projecting/wishful thinking? <img src='http://satyameva-jayate.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/11/24/harit-desh-2/comment-page-1/#comment-50915</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Errrr factcheck,
Are you saying that there is no demand for Harit Pradesh (a state carved out on religious grounds) and this was all made up?
What are you saying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errrr factcheck,<br />
Are you saying that there is no demand for Harit Pradesh (a state carved out on religious grounds) and this was all made up?<br />
What are you saying?</p>
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