<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Secular Harit Desh &#8211; Part II</title>
	<atom:link href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/11/24/harit-desh-2/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/11/24/harit-desh-2/</link>
	<description>Dedicated to "Bharat" and "Dharma"</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:57:33 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/11/24/harit-desh-2/comment-page-1/#comment-63183</link>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 07:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://satyameva-jayate.org/?p=4989#comment-63183</guid>
		<description>A relevant extract re. the situation in Assam mentioned above. From &lt;a href=&quot;http://offstumped.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/islamic-vote-bank-politics-ominous-portents-for-india/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Islamic Vote Bank Politics – Ominous Portents for India&lt;/a&gt;:

For years despite practising a brand of politics that favored Muslims through unapologetic minorytism, parties like the Congress and more recently regional outfits like Mulayam Singh Yadav’s Samajwadi Party in Uttar Pradesh, UP and Lalu Yadav’s Rashtriya Janatad Dal, RJD in Bihar, never really had a consolidated bloc of Muslim Voters they could rely on elections after elections. Sensing an opportunity in exposing the hollow minorytism practised by the likes of Congress, SP, RJD and more specifically AGP in Assam, a group of muslim outfits under the leadership of a Businessman turned Politician Badruddin Ajmal formed the Assam United Democratic Front or AUDF.

The Ajmal experiment in Assam paid off rich dividends with the AUDF contesting in 69 seats and winning 10, contrast this with the BJP contesting 125 seats and also winning only 10. What is astounding is the vote percentages with which the AUDF supported Muslim candidates won the elections in these 10 seats. For example in Bilasipara West in Assam the total turnout was 82%, which is very high for any election in India, however the winning Muslim candidate from AUDF polled only 24% of the votes. In Katigora which had nearly 70% voter turnout, the winning Muslim candidate from AUDF polled only 37%. Badruddin Ajmal himself in Jamunamukh which had a voter turnout close to 80% polled less than 50%. The story is pretty much the same in the rest of the seats save a couple. The lesson from Assam seems to be that despite a fragmented polity, there was sufficient consolidation of Muslim votes behind an upapologetically Muslim Political Outfit to ensure electoral victory despite very high overall voter turnouts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A relevant extract re. the situation in Assam mentioned above. From <a href="http://offstumped.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/islamic-vote-bank-politics-ominous-portents-for-india/" rel="nofollow">Islamic Vote Bank Politics – Ominous Portents for India</a>:</p>
<p>For years despite practising a brand of politics that favored Muslims through unapologetic minorytism, parties like the Congress and more recently regional outfits like Mulayam Singh Yadav’s Samajwadi Party in Uttar Pradesh, UP and Lalu Yadav’s Rashtriya Janatad Dal, RJD in Bihar, never really had a consolidated bloc of Muslim Voters they could rely on elections after elections. Sensing an opportunity in exposing the hollow minorytism practised by the likes of Congress, SP, RJD and more specifically AGP in Assam, a group of muslim outfits under the leadership of a Businessman turned Politician Badruddin Ajmal formed the Assam United Democratic Front or AUDF.</p>
<p>The Ajmal experiment in Assam paid off rich dividends with the AUDF contesting in 69 seats and winning 10, contrast this with the BJP contesting 125 seats and also winning only 10. What is astounding is the vote percentages with which the AUDF supported Muslim candidates won the elections in these 10 seats. For example in Bilasipara West in Assam the total turnout was 82%, which is very high for any election in India, however the winning Muslim candidate from AUDF polled only 24% of the votes. In Katigora which had nearly 70% voter turnout, the winning Muslim candidate from AUDF polled only 37%. Badruddin Ajmal himself in Jamunamukh which had a voter turnout close to 80% polled less than 50%. The story is pretty much the same in the rest of the seats save a couple. The lesson from Assam seems to be that despite a fragmented polity, there was sufficient consolidation of Muslim votes behind an upapologetically Muslim Political Outfit to ensure electoral victory despite very high overall voter turnouts.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: संदीप नारायण शेळके</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/11/24/harit-desh-2/comment-page-1/#comment-51144</link>
		<dc:creator>संदीप नारायण शेळके</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://satyameva-jayate.org/?p=4989#comment-51144</guid>
		<description>Another farcical statement by of the websites claiming to show reality of Bharat Bhumi. Excerpts:
&lt;i&gt;&quot;Arrival of Islam and interaction with Greece, Arabia, Persia and Central Asia further enriched life, which can be discerned even in aspects like architecture and irrigation technology. Literature was also greatly influenced by these movements.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mapsofindia.com/india/india.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Who is India&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

Who gave right to falsify  and distort the history for their own need and greed?

Jai Hind!
&lt;a href=&quot;http://krishidesh.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;कृषीदेश&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another farcical statement by of the websites claiming to show reality of Bharat Bhumi. Excerpts:<br />
<i>&#8220;Arrival of Islam and interaction with Greece, Arabia, Persia and Central Asia further enriched life, which can be discerned even in aspects like architecture and irrigation technology. Literature was also greatly influenced by these movements.&#8221;</i><br />
<a href="http://www.mapsofindia.com/india/india.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Who is India&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Who gave right to falsify  and distort the history for their own need and greed?</p>
<p>Jai Hind!<br />
<a href="http://krishidesh.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">कृषीदेश</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kaffir</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/11/24/harit-desh-2/comment-page-1/#comment-50939</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaffir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://satyameva-jayate.org/?p=4989#comment-50939</guid>
		<description>=&gt;
&lt;i&gt;I know several of your commentators will be itching to call me all sorts of pretty labels, of ignoring obvious dangers, the writing on the wall etc, but I know and appreciate those arguments quite well.&lt;/i&gt;
=&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Dhanya ho mere bhaag&lt;/i&gt;!! Finally, I come across someone - even if on the internet - who is blessed with &lt;i&gt;divya drishti&lt;/i&gt;.

Or merely projecting/wishful thinking? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>=&gt;<br />
<i>I know several of your commentators will be itching to call me all sorts of pretty labels, of ignoring obvious dangers, the writing on the wall etc, but I know and appreciate those arguments quite well.</i><br />
=&gt;</p>
<p><i>Dhanya ho mere bhaag</i>!! Finally, I come across someone &#8211; even if on the internet &#8211; who is blessed with <i>divya drishti</i>.</p>
<p>Or merely projecting/wishful thinking? <img src='http://satyameva-jayate.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/11/24/harit-desh-2/comment-page-1/#comment-50915</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://satyameva-jayate.org/?p=4989#comment-50915</guid>
		<description>Errrr factcheck,
Are you saying that there is no demand for Harit Pradesh (a state carved out on religious grounds) and this was all made up?
What are you saying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errrr factcheck,<br />
Are you saying that there is no demand for Harit Pradesh (a state carved out on religious grounds) and this was all made up?<br />
What are you saying?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/11/24/harit-desh-2/comment-page-1/#comment-50907</link>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://satyameva-jayate.org/?p=4989#comment-50907</guid>
		<description>@ factcheck: Fair enough...I will wait for your specific points.

As for your broader themes, I am very happy to find a &quot;common ground&quot; and yield to &quot;potentially correct alternative perceptions&quot;. I will look forward to reading your views/ counter-points on some of the issues I have raised - especially about your home state (which is?) about which you suggest I do not know enough. 

I am willing to be educated - and even more willing to be corrected. 

As for &quot;&lt;em&gt;That is the problem with using details to generalize- much truth in the details but inaccurate conclusions...&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

Unfortunately a lot of what is being discussed and debated here is something that is hard to prove or disprove empirically and one therefore relies on history, past experiences and one&#039;s own world view to draw conclusions...Who is to say which of these alternative interpretations are right? Only time will tell.

Having said that, alternative interpretations do enrich the discussion (in my view), so they are very welcome here.

&quot;&lt;em&gt;I hope you will acknowledge in your discussions that masses of people cannot be classed into homogenous unyielding entities&lt;/em&gt;&quot; - Yes, I agree with this.

Thanks for the links towards the end of your comment. 

I hope to see you here more often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ factcheck: Fair enough&#8230;I will wait for your specific points.</p>
<p>As for your broader themes, I am very happy to find a &#8220;common ground&#8221; and yield to &#8220;potentially correct alternative perceptions&#8221;. I will look forward to reading your views/ counter-points on some of the issues I have raised &#8211; especially about your home state (which is?) about which you suggest I do not know enough. </p>
<p>I am willing to be educated &#8211; and even more willing to be corrected. </p>
<p>As for &#8220;<em>That is the problem with using details to generalize- much truth in the details but inaccurate conclusions&#8230;</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately a lot of what is being discussed and debated here is something that is hard to prove or disprove empirically and one therefore relies on history, past experiences and one&#8217;s own world view to draw conclusions&#8230;Who is to say which of these alternative interpretations are right? Only time will tell.</p>
<p>Having said that, alternative interpretations do enrich the discussion (in my view), so they are very welcome here.</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>I hope you will acknowledge in your discussions that masses of people cannot be classed into homogenous unyielding entities</em>&#8221; &#8211; Yes, I agree with this.</p>
<p>Thanks for the links towards the end of your comment. </p>
<p>I hope to see you here more often.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Minified using disk: basic
Page Caching using disk: enhanced
Database Caching 4/12 queries in 0.072 seconds using disk: basic
Object Caching 309/313 objects using disk: basic

Served from: satyameva-jayate.org @ 2012-02-09 03:42:11 -->
