I am awaiting Witzels remarks on many of the comments as Talgeri has openly challenged him to refute any of the statements, and I think it would do good to all of us in having a open discussion between the two parties. I’m thinking of emailing Dr WItzel and asking him to read and respond to the same, maybe if enough requests are made he may oblige…

Much to the surprise the Sumerian Civilization that flourished before Mesopotamians clearly gave Kings Lists who ruled their kingdom from the beginning after the initial battle “between brothers”. These king lists date back to 450,000 years. The battle zone is called in Sumeru (according to Decipherment) Kurru also one linguist suggested that the term Ur actually called UruK. In Hebrew they read from right to let versus left to right in Sanskrit so UruK reversed gives the name KurU. Bi (U). Excellent Sumerian Astronomical Tablets like that of Inca Mayans were discovered after 1975 only where they recoded all events starting 500,000 years back. Sumerians said their knowledge came from still Far East pointing their origin to India. Now these king lists are also taken from the far east texts are infact what Kalhana was referring in Raja Tarangini which was borrowed from King and Dynasty lists of Bhagavata Purana. In the 12 Skanda of Bhagavata Sage Suka answers a question about how many dynasties rule after the death of Krishna till the end of the Age of Kali. As was the case with the India and Indians the Sumerian astronomical knowledge, or king lists were discarded as myth for past 125 years and the real interest was rekindled when they found a real tablet of astronomical data depicting again as Mayans did the tilt angle and the Sun position for almost 450,000 years. Sumerian also divided the year count in to Sixty Year cycles bringing their count remarkably closer to Indian sixty year count calculations. Their astrology and astronomical calculations are sexigesimal like that of Indians. The base is 60 for their calculation as in logarithmic calculations the base is ten. Sumerian eon calculations exactly match the calculations of similar description in Indian culture.

5. Satyameva Jayate-Truth alone Triumphs-Dwaraka appears under 72 feet to 60 feet Sedimentation

Dwaraka City that was now found under the sea of East Coast of Gujarat was found buried under 72 feet to 60 feet sedimentation. For every one feet sedimentation (Archaeo-Astronomy or Marine Archaeology) to occur one degree tilt need to be changed. For 72 feet sedimentation 72o degree tilt should have changed. For every degree tilt taking 7000 years duration the actual date of building of City of Dwaraka also goes back to 504,000 years (if 72 sedimentation is taken) or to 420,000 years (60 feet sedimentation is taken).

1920 Research in to Cyclical Periodicity of Climatic geological Changes conducted by Madeline Briskin of University of Cincinnati concluded the deep sea level changes confirm a quasi periodicity of climatic change in every 432,000 years. This theory confirms the astronomical theory of Climatic Modulations that takes in to account the changes due to 1. Earth’s Obliquity (Earth Tilt) 2. Precession (Orbital Retardation) 3. Eccentricity (elongated orbital rotation of earth) Milutin Milankovitch who outlined the theory of grand periodicity of Climatic and Sea level changes in 1920 concluded that such grand periodicity comes once in 413,000 years and now we are at the end of such Grand Periodicity by 2100 confirming the Sumerian and Mayan astronomical calculations of such end of Age. Mayans predict that the age ends with the zero time for building new era starting from 2012.

It is in this context Sir Norman Lockyer considered to be father of Archaeoastronomy in his hand written notes concluded that the Rig Vedic descriptions of position of stars sun moon matches with the Egyptians and other ancient civilizations and dates these writings back along with Sumerian to that of a 413,000 to 432,000 years back.

All the above facts are as staggering as the count of Akshouhinis. Breath taking, but real, appalling but factual, nerve wrenching but absolutely stand out. The above 5 incidents provide links which we need to pick up to reconstruct the Mahabharata War. This reconstruction is hard job as the whole world is against this reconstruction as even single fact above if goes to public (West or east) it may create Panic. After all west wanted to maintain law order and peace all over the world.

From the above 5 distinct facts the following conclusions can be drawn.

There was a devastating war of epic proportions took place any where between 420,000 years to 390,000 years. (Now whether this A war is Mahabharata war or not is to be further researched and concluded). This validates the primary hypothesis, with remaining identification whether this ‘a war’ is Mahabharata or not.

This war destroyed a total area of close to 5.5 million square kilometers or 55 lakh square kilometers and Five (5) great drinking water lakes around the area turning them in to saline dead waters. This area is North West of India and North East of Africa approximately Midway includes current 13 nations starting from Lebanon until Iran. This validates the primary hypothesis, by satisfying Battle ground area Requirements of 18 Akshouhinis.

Prior to the war there was a massive mining operations undertaken on African Continent and prior to the mining the entire continent (or major part of the continent) was scorched and burned to clear the forests for mining and agriculture. This was done in the same approximate time frame of 450,000 to 390,000 years. This validates the primary hypothesis, by satisfying Battle’s metallurgical requirements of 18 Akshouhinis.

After massive human loss during the same war period after math (390,000-420,000 years) the human race was revived from the womb of Uttara (widow of Abhimanyu) by Krishna who was in Khandav Prastha current Africa where the Genetic Trace back ended as saying from African Neanderthal women current human race came forth. Sumerian Texts call this as breathing life in to man by gods.

Validates assumption ‘g’.

During the similar period Mayan Inca Aztec records confirm that there was a Summer Capital built in Varanavata (current South America) for Princes on Royal Command by Virochana (Viracocha in Spanish) and this building of summer Capital is the Zero date and this dates back to 500,000-420,000 years. Validates assumption ‘c’

Indraprastha is current India, Khandav Prastha being the Africa and Middle East with 5.5 Million Square kilometers area and being mid way between Indra Prasta (India) and Khandav (Africa) fits the most opt description of Kurukshetra. Varanavata being the South America. Validates assumption ‘b’

So Bharata Khanda which included 5 main countries Indraprastha, Khandav Prastha, Varanavata, Jayanta and Varuna Prastha. See Map-1. We can reconstruct the Map of Bharata Khanda as follows.

1. Antarctica —- Jayanta —-Place of Lush Green Vegetation which Antarctica was before 500,000 years ago. (See Series-3).

2. South America —-Varanavata— The story of Virochana (in Spanish Viracocha) building Summer capital on royal command for 5 princes was every where in all south American countries including the other facts of Mahabharata Story it self.

3. Africa —-Khandav Prastha —The traditional name for Africa in Zulu and Swahili language is Khandav. Africa is the racist name meaning black continent is the name given by Church to distinguish them from the white European nations.

4. India Proper—Indra Prastha —From Gandhara (Afghanistan and central Asia) to Kambhoja (Cambodia). The capital of the province was Hastina Pura, probably the current New Delhi.

5. Australia — Varuna Prastha — Land of Varuna or waters.

As seen in the map 500 million years ago when the earth broke up it broke up first in to three continents Bharata Khanda including Africa South America Antarctica and Australia. Then Eurasia called in Texts as Indraka Khanda, Arctic and North America defined as Ramanaka Khanda. The Bharata Varsha is the entire Earth it Self. Validates assumption ‘a’.

The Greek name Indica or subsequent Latin English derivative India or French le’ Inde all came from corrupt form of Indra Prastha but not from the Persian mis-pronunciation of Sindhu to Hindu to Indu to India. Greeks 1300 years before used the term Indica.

Till now all the facts support the Paleographic contention that Human evolved1 million to 500,000 years and by 450,000 they were fully developed with language, culture and arts. This situation now may change because of recent discovery of a sunken island in Indian Ocean 900 miles south of India’s southern tip which is dated to be as old as 179,000,000 years. Still studies are not commenced on this island but the initial photographs indicate there are structures consistent with buildings, roads etc.

It is also believed that this trans continental civilization developments abruptly came to and end at the beginning of Wisconsin or Wurn Glaciation which started 100,000 years BC., and ended around 15,000 BC. All civilizations affected by sudden glaciation and rapid advancement of northern Snow. Except in South America Africa and India it looks like all other continents got affected. All civilizations started to re appear around 12,000 years age in these areas. Reasons were still searched.

The last assumption that 3 distinct groups of people were annihilated cannot be tracked with the current level of technology. Though scientists agreeing that except Neanderthals none survived after Wisconsin glaciation after 100,000 BC.

In the next concluding section we discuss the implications of these findings. Do they prove there was Mahabharata? Why for until in India none are aware of all these facts? What should we do now? How to proceed next? Why there is a sudden effort to consolidate dates of all ancient civilizations around 3500 BC? How to redefine the geography of Indraprastha, Khandav Prastha, Varanavata, Bharata Varsha, and Bharata Khanda.

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(Highly Radio Active Pottery clothing and other artifacts)

Thousands of archaeological sites came in to light in Middle East after 1990 satellite imaging became more sophisticated. The techniques of depth imaging of more than 100 meters brought in to light the three dimensional images of many buried cities in and around Middle East. Starting from Iran north until Syria, covering Israel until the end of Sinai Peninsula massive structures-temples, cities, courts were coming in to light since last ten years. Most of these sites and their artifacts when excavated found to highly radio active. The radio activity was not an accidental natural radio activity, nor back ground radiation bombardment from cosmos both of which can be exactly measured. This radio activity came from weapons grade uranium or plutonium. After dropping the bombs on Japan western scientists knew how to identify weapons grade plutonium versus energy grade plutonium such as released from accidental reactor failure like that of Chernobyl.

Calculating the half life took back the date of release to a staggering 450,000-390,000 years. It was also found that the following five seas/lakes (what ever be the description of these seas/lakes in those ancient days) are drinking water lakes of huge size but their salinity and other qualities changed due to release of such weapons grade uranium and plutonium. One lake/sea completely turned in to lifeless water body now called Dead Sea or Sea of Galilee. Though now a days it is called Sea of Galilee it was just a millennium back called Lake Kinnereth. (Cosmic Code, Avon Books New York, 1998. pp.25). These huge drinking water bodies of the sizes of seas which after the release of radio active weapons are 1.Red Sea 2. Sea of Galilee 3. Caspian Sea 4. Mediterranean Sea and 5. Gulf of Aden. Virgin soil sedimentation studies in these seas/lakes provided fresh water animal and fish fossils and vegetation compatible with drinking water lakes.

Also it was found that a staggering area of 55 lakh square kilometers or 5.5 million square kilometers as indicated in the table below turned in to a life less dessert wiping out complete human animal plant populations after the weapon usage which still is dessert. The massive human animal and plan fossils which lay buried under the earth over thousands of years finally became fossil fuel of unending nature Oil and feeding the world for past two hundred years. The following table shows the current countries that exist in these 5.5 million square kilometers. If should be remembered that these countries were again artificially created since 1850 by British who “administered these areas through British Mandate” (here mandate is not of the people of these areas but of British people wanted Britain to rule these areas as they are beneficial to the empire). Before British these are nomadic dessert lands of no use to none. See Summary Table-IV

Summary Table-IV. Converted Desert 450,000 to 390,000 Years before

Country Area (Square Kilometers)

Bahrain 691

Iran 1,663,189

Iraq 4, 38,317

Israel 20, 770

Jordan 91,000

Kuwait 17,818

Lebanon 10,400

Oman 386,958

Qatar 11, 427

Saudi Araia 2,149, 690

Syria 1, 85,180

United Arab Emirates 83, 600

Yemen 527,968

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Grand Total 55, 87,008 or 5,587,008 million Sq Kilometers

See this total area pointed by archaeologists as converted in to dessert with the after math of war effects is close to the total area required for battle deployment and actual battle area of 18 akshouhinis mentioned above. In the above case the area required was 57, 71,070 lakhs square kilometers or 5,771,070 million square kilometers.

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