It is this racist EU which used to give unending lectures to Indians. Meanwhile they don’t tolerate a little difference in skin color. They are even deporting Romas who are willing to assimilate. And we used to listen to these ????

“These are dark-skinned people, not Europeans like you and me,” said Riccardo De Corato, who is Milan’s vice mayor from Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi’s ruling party and who is in charge of handling the camps. He later added: “Our final goal is to have zero Gypsy camps in Milan.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/11/AR2010101106428.html

True, but Islamic community will not be able to impose their will on local communities like demanding segregation of pools and so on. Multi culturalism is dead. Now the buzz word is ‘assimilation’. Local
politicians are already saying “if you want Sharia go back to your parents place”. This was akin to comitting political suicide for a politician just 10 years ago. Can you imagine such a situation in India?

Even after horrific partition we still let a minority dictate foreign policy.

“Besides, Muslims don’t need to be in a majority in the country – they can be in majority in a specific city or a state (e.g. J&K) to cause problems. Or, in many instances, not even be in a majority in a specific city/voting area, viz. your examples of creeping Sharia”

Exactly true, and those darn EU folks are learning from the experience of France and India. Italy legally is ensuring that immigrants(nearly 1% muslim) are not clustered in ‘zones’. Ariana Fallaci is very well read and admired, can you imagine such a situation in India?

Danes realized that the ‘immigrants’ do not fear prosecution or jail term but deportation. So, they are making use of the entire arsenal including private sector(conversions) to fight for their culture. Dutch are going through immigration papers of those who
already have residency and checking for immigration fraud. Gret Wilders, a prominent anti Islam critic is the King maker of the current Dutch govt. All accross Europe anti immigration parties are doing well in elections.

After 9/11 US deported several ME/Paki’s without proper documentaion. They did not do the same for say Hindu’s from India or Nepal or Mexicans.

So, all I am saying is that Europe has not thrown in the towel and they are fighting back for their way of life. It was quite admirable the way Danes stood up to the bullying of Islamic world. They would never allow a Deganga let alone Kashmir.

I just hope and pray that we Hindus have half as much self preservation instinct as those Europeans, Australians and Americans.

1. “There is a bit of scare mongering going on. There are quite a few assumptions made to come up with the statistics which say Islam is going to be the dominat religion in some countries like France”

2. “Islam does not need to be dominant for Sharia encroachment of public and private space of an individual.”

Exactly the point that Christopher Caldwell made, that it might be too late to turn the clock back, i.e. Islam will continue to have a presence in European countries and affect the life there.

Besides, Muslims don’t need to be in a majority in the country – they can be in majority in a specific city or a state (e.g. J&K) to cause problems. Or, in many instances, not even be in a majority in a specific city/voting area, viz. your examples of creeping Sharia.

I think this article belongs to the above category. With rationlizations the good professor is making it is no surprise that the average citizen appears to be sympathetic to the alarmist theories. The article does not say what the professors definition of ‘Islamization’ is.

What the ‘good professor’ seems to be missing is that a small percentage of Islamic population appears to cause disproportionate problems. Muslim population in US is <1% at 2-3 million, according to reliable Pew trust survey. But just see the troubles US has, Mosque issue is tearing the the most liberal city in US apart. Add to that Ford Hood shootings and Time Square bombing and the earlier 9/11 attacks. Is it any surprise that an average American is not taken in by 'Islam is a peacefull religion hijacked by violent
extremists'. No wonder they want immigration restrictions. All these 'misguided' actions by some 'people' of a particular community are increasing costs for the Host nation.

Islam does not need to be dominant for Sharia encroachment of public and private space of an individual. Shantanu recently noted that Halal foods were served to non Muslims without their knowledge. Just see how sensitive American and EU press has become to Islamic concerns. Editor and publisher of Danish Cartoons Flemming Rose noted if Sharia is incumbent of Muslims so be it. If drawing of prophet cartoons is not acceptable to Muslims, it is OK for them to not draw. But why should Sharia be imposed on non Muslims? Why should non muslims not draw Prophet Muhammad pictures? Sam Harris best seller 'End of faith' was rejected by over 20 publishers for fear of offending Islamic sensibilities. There are clear cases where cab drivers were not taking in customers with liquor or dogs. Not even the guide dogs. And people have been demanding segregation of PUBLIC pools. It is not irrational fear if host nation citizens decide to not accomodate such untenable demands.

So, there is clear evidence of creeping Islamization(Sharia) the professor chose to ignore.

If it is not a duplicate please do post it.

Thanks,
Mallika