Comments on: A closer look at the “Sangh Parivaar” – Join the debate on RSS http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/06/05/rss-debate/ Dedicated to "Bharat" and "Dharma" Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:57:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: B Shantanu http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/06/05/rss-debate/comment-page-4/#comment-260043 B Shantanu Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:29:03 +0000 http://satyameva-jayate.org/?p=2216#comment-260043 Thought-provoking VCK. Thanks... Thought-provoking VCK. Thanks…

]]> By: v.c.krishnan. http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/06/05/rss-debate/comment-page-4/#comment-255111 v.c.krishnan. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:59:55 +0000 http://satyameva-jayate.org/?p=2216#comment-255111 Dear Shantanu, @Ashish I understand the anguish of Ashish when he states that there will be a host of bannings requested if this is request for ban on cow slaughter is accepted. Iwould not like to question te thought; Yes banning cow slaughter may lead to other requests but there is meaning behind this: 1. If one goes thru the magazines like PETA/National Geographic we see the amount of waste of water and fodder goes into bringing pigs and chicken for slaughter. Meat is the highest consumer of water and resources. 2. The dung of the cow is very beneficial for agriculture and it is eco friendly. 3. The dung from the cow if used judiciously can generate sufficient gas known as GOBAR for satisfying the needs of a small village; this means less drag on natural resources. 4. The same GOBAR can generate electricity thru the means of equipment locally manufactured. I think in a place in Vidharba this has changed the lives of farmers who were committing suicide.There was an article on the use of GOBAR very recently in the TOI and Economic Times. 5. The urine of the cow if mixed in a certain proportion with other locally available materials like Gur and other ingredients makes for the best eco friendly pesticide. The urine of the cow is also used medically in indegenous medicine and in many alternative medicines. 6. The cow /bull can be used for ploughing and its dung and urine during such activities are very good for the soil. 7. The Indian breed of cows live of hardy needle filled trees, shrubs,hay and other locally available household waste. This is not the case as regards animals like Pigs/Chickens etc. 8. One must know that the "Dhobis" of yesteryears knew a technique of using the dung of Donkeys for making a particular product which used to whiten clothes even better than all our chemical derivates. Eco friendly to boot! 9. People very rarely slaughter Horses/Donkeys etc. The utility of the cow far outweighs the need to slaughter it. Please understand that there is no "HINDU RELIGION" involved in my statement. Regards, vck Dear Shantanu,
@Ashish
I understand the anguish of Ashish when he states that there will be a host of bannings requested if this is request for ban on cow slaughter is accepted.
Iwould not like to question te thought; Yes banning cow slaughter may lead to other requests but there is meaning behind this:
1. If one goes thru the magazines like PETA/National Geographic we see the amount of waste of water and fodder goes into bringing pigs and chicken for slaughter. Meat is the highest consumer of water and resources.
2. The dung of the cow is very beneficial for agriculture and it is eco friendly.
3. The dung from the cow if used judiciously can generate sufficient gas known as GOBAR for satisfying the needs of a small village; this means less drag on natural resources.
4. The same GOBAR can generate electricity thru the means of equipment locally manufactured. I think in a place in Vidharba this has changed the lives of farmers who were committing suicide.There was an article on the use of GOBAR very recently in the TOI and Economic Times.
5. The urine of the cow if mixed in a certain proportion with other locally available materials like Gur and other ingredients makes for the best eco friendly pesticide.
The urine of the cow is also used medically in indegenous medicine and in many alternative medicines.
6. The cow /bull can be used for ploughing and its dung and urine during such activities are very good for the soil.
7. The Indian breed of cows live of hardy needle filled trees, shrubs,hay and other locally available household waste.
This is not the case as regards animals like Pigs/Chickens etc.
8. One must know that the “Dhobis” of yesteryears knew a technique of using the dung of Donkeys for making a particular product which used to whiten clothes even better than all our chemical derivates. Eco friendly to boot!
9. People very rarely slaughter Horses/Donkeys etc.
The utility of the cow far outweighs the need to slaughter it.
Please understand that there is no “HINDU RELIGION” involved in my statement.
Regards,
vck

]]> By: B Shantanu http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/06/05/rss-debate/comment-page-4/#comment-255035 B Shantanu Fri, 04 Nov 2011 07:48:40 +0000 http://satyameva-jayate.org/?p=2216#comment-255035 Posting this here for the record. From <a href="http://www.indianexpress.com/news/rss-didnt-plot-gandhi-killing-hindu-mahasabha-did-patel-told-nehru/870537/" rel="nofollow">RSS didn’t plot Gandhi killing, Hindu Mahasabha did, Patel told Nehru</a>: <i>... While Patel agreed with Nehru on banning the RSS after the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi in 1948, he was convinced that “Bapu’s murder was not the result of an RSS conspiracy but that of a section of Hindu Mahasabha” who he regarded “a greater danger than RSS”.</i> Posting this here for the record. From RSS didn’t plot Gandhi killing, Hindu Mahasabha did, Patel told Nehru:
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While Patel agreed with Nehru on banning the RSS after the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi in 1948, he was convinced that “Bapu’s murder was not the result of an RSS conspiracy but that of a section of Hindu Mahasabha” who he regarded “a greater danger than RSS”.

]]> By: B Shantanu http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/06/05/rss-debate/comment-page-4/#comment-252400 B Shantanu Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:43:28 +0000 http://satyameva-jayate.org/?p=2216#comment-252400 Important factoid from <a href="http://ccrhs.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/communal-violence-bill-divides-society/" rel="nofollow">Communal Violence Bill divides society</a> by Prof Hilda Raja: <i>The drafters of the Bill presume that riots and violence are perpetrated by the “others” (read Hindus). This is certainly not always true. According to Ms Zenab Banu’s Politics of Communalism: a Politico-historical Analysis of Communal Riots in post-Independence India with Special Reference to the Gujarat and Rajasthan Riots (1989), there have been 74 communal riots between 1953 and 1977, of which 75 per cent were instigated by wayward members of the minority community. Even today, 98 per cent of cross border and/or Indian-born terrorism is planned, instigated and perpetrated by the minority community members. Yet, the Union Minister of Home Affairs, Mr P Chidambaram, repeatedly refers to ‘saffrom terror’.</i> Important factoid from Communal Violence Bill divides society by Prof Hilda Raja:
The drafters of the Bill presume that riots and violence are perpetrated by the “others” (read Hindus). This is certainly not always true. According to Ms Zenab Banu’s Politics of Communalism: a Politico-historical Analysis of Communal Riots in post-Independence India with Special Reference to the Gujarat and Rajasthan Riots (1989), there have been 74 communal riots between 1953 and 1977, of which 75 per cent were instigated by wayward members of the minority community. Even today, 98 per cent of cross border and/or Indian-born terrorism is planned, instigated and perpetrated by the minority community members. Yet, the Union Minister of Home Affairs, Mr P Chidambaram, repeatedly refers to ‘saffrom terror’.

]]> By: Ashish http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/06/05/rss-debate/comment-page-4/#comment-228320 Ashish Thu, 15 Sep 2011 03:17:43 +0000 http://satyameva-jayate.org/?p=2216#comment-228320 Dear All, I agree with the most of the sangh works, but to demand the ban on cow slaughter is un-democratic. don't you think? What about the secular credentials of this country? I mean if we demand ban on cow slaughter then muslims will demand for ban on haram foods like liquior, pork etc. As they are also the citizens of this country. Then some other minority will start that. How sangh will counter this question? Dear All,

I agree with the most of the sangh works, but to demand the ban on cow slaughter is un-democratic. don’t you think? What about the secular credentials of this country? I mean if we demand ban on cow slaughter then muslims will demand for ban on haram foods like liquior, pork etc. As they are also the citizens of this country. Then some other minority will start that. How sangh will counter this question?

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