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		<title>By: Very very bad militants… - Offstumped Community Portal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Very very bad militants… - Offstumped Community Portal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/05/05/war-against-terror-ideology/comment-page-1/#comment-42348</link>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excerpts from a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers34/paper3365.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;*Must Read* piece by B Raman&lt;/a&gt;:
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* There have been four acts of mass casualty terrorism since 1981. All the four were carried out when the Congress (I) was in power in New Delhi.

* There have been three instances of targeted attacks on foreigners since 1991—-two in J&amp;K and one in Mumbai. All the three were carried out when the Congress (I) was in power.

* There have been seven acts of ISI-sponsored aircraft hijackings since 1971. Six of them were carried out when the Congress (I) and one when the BJP was in power.

* There has been one instance of an Air India plane being blown up in mid-air killing over 250 persons. This took place when the Congress (I) was in power.

* The LET was banned by the Musharraf Government as a terrorist organization through a Gazette notification on January 15, 2002. The Manmohan Singh Government has not been able to get the JUD banned by the Zardari Government through a Gazette notification even nine months after the Mumbai attack.

* Indira Gandhi was assassinated when the Congress (I) was in power in New Delhi. Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated when an ally of the Congress (I) was in power in New Delhi and another ally in Chennai.

* The Indian Mujahideen came into existence when the Congress (I) was in power.

* The first commando-style complex terrorist attack in Indian territory by a group of terrorists, all hailing from Pakistan, has taken place when the Congress (I) is in power.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excerpts from a <a href="http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers34/paper3365.html" rel="nofollow">*Must Read* piece by B Raman</a>:</p>
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* There have been four acts of mass casualty terrorism since 1981. All the four were carried out when the Congress (I) was in power in New Delhi.</p>
<p>* There have been three instances of targeted attacks on foreigners since 1991—-two in J&amp;K and one in Mumbai. All the three were carried out when the Congress (I) was in power.</p>
<p>* There have been seven acts of ISI-sponsored aircraft hijackings since 1971. Six of them were carried out when the Congress (I) and one when the BJP was in power.</p>
<p>* There has been one instance of an Air India plane being blown up in mid-air killing over 250 persons. This took place when the Congress (I) was in power.</p>
<p>* The LET was banned by the Musharraf Government as a terrorist organization through a Gazette notification on January 15, 2002. The Manmohan Singh Government has not been able to get the JUD banned by the Zardari Government through a Gazette notification even nine months after the Mumbai attack.</p>
<p>* Indira Gandhi was assassinated when the Congress (I) was in power in New Delhi. Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated when an ally of the Congress (I) was in power in New Delhi and another ally in Chennai.</p>
<p>* The Indian Mujahideen came into existence when the Congress (I) was in power.</p>
<p>* The first commando-style complex terrorist attack in Indian territory by a group of terrorists, all hailing from Pakistan, has taken place when the Congress (I) is in power.
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		<title>By: Kaffir</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/05/05/war-against-terror-ideology/comment-page-1/#comment-37260</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaffir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one, by Dr. Hamid. And these &quot;progressives&quot; also put obstacles in the path of any progress by either ignoring or worse, criticizing those Muslims (Ayan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan, Ibn Warraq, Taslima Nasrin) who make attempts to draw attention to the problems, or try to bring about a change, when these &quot;progressives&quot; should be supporting them. I&#039;ve often wondered why, and one possible answer is that these &quot;progressives&quot; have Muslim friends, and out of some sense of political correctness or not trying to offend their friends, they tend to take this stance. But these same people have no problem with criticizing Hinduism and other religions even if they have Hindus as friends. Really weird and irrational phenomenon - and this phenomenon is what is considered secular, when it&#039;s so blatantly communal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one, by Dr. Hamid. And these &#8220;progressives&#8221; also put obstacles in the path of any progress by either ignoring or worse, criticizing those Muslims (Ayan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan, Ibn Warraq, Taslima Nasrin) who make attempts to draw attention to the problems, or try to bring about a change, when these &#8220;progressives&#8221; should be supporting them. I&#8217;ve often wondered why, and one possible answer is that these &#8220;progressives&#8221; have Muslim friends, and out of some sense of political correctness or not trying to offend their friends, they tend to take this stance. But these same people have no problem with criticizing Hinduism and other religions even if they have Hindus as friends. Really weird and irrational phenomenon &#8211; and this phenomenon is what is considered secular, when it&#8217;s so blatantly communal.</p>
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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/05/05/war-against-terror-ideology/comment-page-1/#comment-37257</link>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excerpts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009890&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Trouble With Islam&lt;/a&gt; by TAWFIK HAMID:
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But indeed, there is much that is clearly wrong with the Islamic world. Women are stoned to death and undergo clitorectomies. Gays hang from the gallows under the approving eyes of the proponents of Shariah, the legal code of Islam. Sunni and Shia massacre each other daily in Iraq. Palestinian mothers teach 3-year-old boys and girls the ideal of martyrdom. One would expect the orthodox Islamic establishment to evade or dismiss these complaints, but less happily, the non-Muslim priests of enlightenment in the West have come, actively and passively, to the Islamists&#039; defense.

These &quot;progressives&quot; frequently cite the need to examine &quot;root causes.&quot; In this they are correct: Terrorism is only the manifestation of a disease and not the disease itself. But the root-causes are quite different from what they think. As a former member of Jemaah Islamiya, a group led by al Qaeda&#039;s second in command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, I know firsthand that the inhumane teaching in Islamist ideology can transform a young, benevolent mind into that of a terrorist. Without confronting the ideological roots of radical Islam it will be impossible to combat it. While there are many ideological &quot;rootlets&quot; of Islamism, the main tap root has a name--Salafism, or Salafi Islam, a violent, ultra-conservative version of the religion.

It is vital to grasp that traditional and even mainstream Islamic teaching accepts and promotes violence. Shariah, for example, allows apostates to be killed, permits beating women to discipline them, seeks to subjugate non-Muslims to Islam as dhimmis and justifies declaring war to do so. It exhorts good Muslims to exterminate the Jews before the &quot;end of days.&quot; The near deafening silence of the Muslim majority against these barbaric practices is evidence enough that there is something fundamentally wrong. 

...it is ironic and discouraging that many non-Muslim, Western intellectuals--who unceasingly claim to support human rights--have become obstacles to reforming Islam. 

Political correctness among Westerners obstructs unambiguous criticism of Shariah&#039;s inhumanity. They find socioeconomic or political excuses for Islamist terrorism such as poverty, colonialism, discrimination or the existence of Israel. What incentive is there for Muslims to demand reform when Western &quot;progressives&quot; pave the way for Islamist barbarity? Indeed, if the problem is not one of religious beliefs, it leaves one to wonder why Christians who live among Muslims under identical circumstances refrain from contributing to wide-scale, systematic campaigns of terror. 

...Western appeasement of their Muslim communities has exacerbated the problem. During the four-month period after the publication of the Muhammad cartoons in a Danish magazine, there were comparatively few violent demonstrations by Muslims. Within a few days of the Danish magazine&#039;s formal apology, riots erupted throughout the world. The apology had been perceived by Islamists as weakness and concession.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Dr. Hamid, a onetime member of Jemaah Islamiya, an Islamist terrorist group, is a medical doctor and Muslim reformer living in the West. &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excerpts from <a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009890" rel="nofollow">The Trouble With Islam</a> by TAWFIK HAMID:</p>
<blockquote><p> &#8230;<br />
But indeed, there is much that is clearly wrong with the Islamic world. Women are stoned to death and undergo clitorectomies. Gays hang from the gallows under the approving eyes of the proponents of Shariah, the legal code of Islam. Sunni and Shia massacre each other daily in Iraq. Palestinian mothers teach 3-year-old boys and girls the ideal of martyrdom. One would expect the orthodox Islamic establishment to evade or dismiss these complaints, but less happily, the non-Muslim priests of enlightenment in the West have come, actively and passively, to the Islamists&#8217; defense.</p>
<p>These &#8220;progressives&#8221; frequently cite the need to examine &#8220;root causes.&#8221; In this they are correct: Terrorism is only the manifestation of a disease and not the disease itself. But the root-causes are quite different from what they think. As a former member of Jemaah Islamiya, a group led by al Qaeda&#8217;s second in command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, I know firsthand that the inhumane teaching in Islamist ideology can transform a young, benevolent mind into that of a terrorist. Without confronting the ideological roots of radical Islam it will be impossible to combat it. While there are many ideological &#8220;rootlets&#8221; of Islamism, the main tap root has a name&#8211;Salafism, or Salafi Islam, a violent, ultra-conservative version of the religion.</p>
<p>It is vital to grasp that traditional and even mainstream Islamic teaching accepts and promotes violence. Shariah, for example, allows apostates to be killed, permits beating women to discipline them, seeks to subjugate non-Muslims to Islam as dhimmis and justifies declaring war to do so. It exhorts good Muslims to exterminate the Jews before the &#8220;end of days.&#8221; The near deafening silence of the Muslim majority against these barbaric practices is evidence enough that there is something fundamentally wrong. </p>
<p>&#8230;it is ironic and discouraging that many non-Muslim, Western intellectuals&#8211;who unceasingly claim to support human rights&#8211;have become obstacles to reforming Islam. </p>
<p>Political correctness among Westerners obstructs unambiguous criticism of Shariah&#8217;s inhumanity. They find socioeconomic or political excuses for Islamist terrorism such as poverty, colonialism, discrimination or the existence of Israel. What incentive is there for Muslims to demand reform when Western &#8220;progressives&#8221; pave the way for Islamist barbarity? Indeed, if the problem is not one of religious beliefs, it leaves one to wonder why Christians who live among Muslims under identical circumstances refrain from contributing to wide-scale, systematic campaigns of terror. </p>
<p>&#8230;Western appeasement of their Muslim communities has exacerbated the problem. During the four-month period after the publication of the Muhammad cartoons in a Danish magazine, there were comparatively few violent demonstrations by Muslims. Within a few days of the Danish magazine&#8217;s formal apology, riots erupted throughout the world. The apology had been perceived by Islamists as weakness and concession.</p></blockquote>
<p><i>Dr. Hamid, a onetime member of Jemaah Islamiya, an Islamist terrorist group, is a medical doctor and Muslim reformer living in the West. </i></p>
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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/05/05/war-against-terror-ideology/comment-page-1/#comment-33094</link>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 13:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A brief excerpt from &lt;a href=&quot;http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Editorial/TOP-ARTICLE--Wages-Of-Incoherence/articleshow/4561298.cms&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wages of Incoherence&lt;/a&gt; by Sh K Subrahmanyam (May 22 &#039;09)
&lt;blockquote&gt;While the US is trying to use Pakistan&#039;s army and state apparatus to fight the most organised expression of the extremist cult in the form of the Taliban and al-Qaeda, the ideology pervading the madrassas remains untouched. No doubt a programme for building schools and reforming education exists on paper. If the US is not to make the mistake of leaving Pakistan once the anti-Taliban/al-Qaeda campaigns end, it must recognise that there is a fundamental ideological conflict with the prevalent extremist cult. There has to be a de-jihadisation of Pakistan  and Afghanistan, just as once there was de-Nazification in Europe.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A brief excerpt from <a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Editorial/TOP-ARTICLE--Wages-Of-Incoherence/articleshow/4561298.cms" rel="nofollow">Wages of Incoherence</a> by Sh K Subrahmanyam (May 22 &#8217;09)</p>
<blockquote><p>While the US is trying to use Pakistan&#8217;s army and state apparatus to fight the most organised expression of the extremist cult in the form of the Taliban and al-Qaeda, the ideology pervading the madrassas remains untouched. No doubt a programme for building schools and reforming education exists on paper. If the US is not to make the mistake of leaving Pakistan once the anti-Taliban/al-Qaeda campaigns end, it must recognise that there is a fundamental ideological conflict with the prevalent extremist cult. There has to be a de-jihadisation of Pakistan  and Afghanistan, just as once there was de-Nazification in Europe.</p></blockquote>
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