Of “Hindu Hooligans” and “MIM Activists”

…or “The great joke that is Indian Media – Part IX“. Please read the following news-reports…(emphasis mine):

From NDTV:

Controversial writer Taslima Nasreen was attacked by an unruly crowd at the Hyderabad Press club on Thursday. Three MLAs of the All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen or MIM were among those who attacked her…The Bangladesh born writer was there for the release of the telugu version of her book Sokhe at the press club when some 30 activists first raised slogans against her for alleged anti-Muslim remarks and then got rough.

From DNA:

Controversial Bangladeshi author Taslima Nasreen was on Thursday roughed up by MIM activists who stormed into a book release function, injuring a Telugu writer and a press photographer…A group of over 40 MIM workers, led by party MLAs Afsar Khan, Ahmed Pasha and Mouzam Khan, barged into the press club at Somajiguda when the function was about to end.

From Indian Express:

Noted Bangladeshi novelist Taslima Nasreen was roughed up by activists of Majlis Ittehadul Muslimeen (MIM) at a book release function on Thursday.

From TOI (Identical PTI story):

Noted Bangladeshi novelist Taslima Nasreen was roughed up by activists of Majlis Ittehadul Muslimeen (MIM) at a book release function on Thursday

From Rediff:

The police…booked a case against MIM MLAs and other activists under sections 147 and 18 (rioting with deadly weapons), 323 (voluntarily causing hurt)…

Now read these news-items:

From NDTV:

India has been shamed again. Goons of a right wing Hindu outfit Sri Ram Sena in Mangalore barged into a pub and beat up women over the weekend

From DNA:

In a case of moral policing, members of a right wing Hindu group allegedly assaulted boys and girls in a Magalore pub accusing them of behaving in an “obscene manner”.

From Rediff:

Activists of a right wing Hindu outfit under the banner of Sri Ram Sena raided a pub in Mangalore, Karnataka, on Sunday and beat up four women who were present there.

From Economic Times:

Meanwhile, cracking down on hooligans, police have arrested as many as 32 of the 40 alleged hooligans, including Sene state vice president Prasad Attavar.

From Sakaal Times:

Members of a right wing Hindu group allegedly assaulted boys and girls in a Mangalore pub accusing them of behaving in an “obscene manner”, prompting police to arrest 10 of the attackers.

Long live freedom of press in India.

The thing that I am struggling with is…either both of these groups were activists/workers or both were hooligans/goons…and if religion is/was a factor in both these cases (as it appears to be), it should have been mentioned in all the news-reports…No?

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For my views on girls in pubs, read Let us blow up Khajuraho…, “We saw the girl and the boy…and we forced ourselves in” and A Valentine’s Day “fatwa”. On Taslima, please read Taslima Nasreen and a deafening silence.

As for mob violence, there cannot be any place for it in a democratic, functioning state. Sh. Yeddyurappa’s government must prosecute those behind the shameful attack in Mangalore to the fullest, regardless of their political and/or religious affiliations.

P.S. Thankfully someone had the courage to say it the way it was (in Hyderabad):

First of all what kind of people would assault a woman? As if it was not shameful enough, these hooligans were actually MLAs belonging to All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (MIM), a party that claims to represent Muslims of the city.

Bravo Mohib.

Related post (on mob violence): No longer funny…

and (courtesy Retributions): On Mob Violence In India

And if you missed “The great joke that is Indian Media” series, here it is: “The great joke that is Indian Media” series: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8.

Also read: On Taslima Nasreen, fatwas and burqas…

B Shantanu

Political Activist, Blogger, Advisor to start-ups, Seed investor. One time VC and ex-Diplomat. Failed mushroom farmer; ex Radio Jockey. Currently involved in Reclaiming India - One Step at a Time.

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43 Responses

  1. Sabari says:

    It is unusual (or it used to be), and unusual headlines evidently work with viewers/readers. The viewers are equally responsible for not being critical of, and even agreeing with the ways of, our ‘wonderful’ news media.

    I notice that this entry is tagged “Distortions, Misrepresentation about Hinduism”. Apt.

  2. amreekandesi says:

    Indeed, the Indian media is one great joke!

    The scary part though, is the damage they cause by their ineptitude and irresponsibility.

  3. Blogger says:

    Thanks for the informative comparison Shantanu. Please read my views on the Indian media in these articles: Immorality of biased Anti-Hindu media, Is there an Indian media mindset?, and most importantly, Editorial slandering of Hindu symbols by CNN-IBN

  4. Anon says:

    shantanu, anu info on the reasons for the attack? Are there hordes of girls ‘disappearing’ from mangy?

  5. Kartikey says:

    Shantanu,
    You have made your self very clear.

  6. B Shantanu says:

    All: Thanks for sharing your thoughts…I will comment later…

    In the meantime, please read this: Blogger Silenced by NDTV

    ***

    Anon, I have not read any reports on hordes of girls disappearing from Mangalore. What I have read was just about one girl who was later found in Kerala . I dont think this has anything to do with the attacks.

  7. Kaffir says:

    What’s needed is a blog solely dedicated to comprehensively chronicling (with links, quotes and citations) all such instances of media bias. State the assumptions/thesis upfront, along with expectations from the media, and then go on to write posts where the media fails to meet those expectations and indulges in biased reporting. Best if such a blog is non-partisan in nature, but even if not, such partisanship can be expressed in the thesis, that we focus on media bias against Hinduism, or those incidents where Hinduism is concerned. And focus solely on the media, instead of getting into politics or other issues – the nature of the posts should be in the spirit of “evam me pashyam” (apologies if the grammar is incorrect) – this is what I observed.

    Such a dedicated blog can then be used as a clearinghouse/resource for other bloggers who can use the facts to give their perspective on other issues linked to such a bias and how it affects people’s perceptions.

    Just a thought.

  8. Kiran P says:

    http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=8098&SKIN=B

    Real Talibans of India – Media

    When a female journalist called Soumya Vishwanathan was killed in India’a national capital, the Chief Minister of Delhi Smt Sheila Dixit blamed the dead female journalist for her own tragedy by saying that she was too adventurous. The Media wholeheartedly supported Mrs Dixit and went gaga over her shortly afterwards, when she won the Delhi Assembly elections.

    When Scarlett Keeling was raped and killed in Goa and the needle of suspicion pointed to a strong nexus between the Goan Ministers, the drug mafia and the sex racketeers, the media played it very safe by conveniently choosing not to pursue the leads from the investigation.

    When a 14-year-old German girl was raped by Rohit Monserrate, the 21-year-old son of Goa Education Minister Atanasio Monserrate who is also a powerful political figure in Goa, and the girl’s mother was repeatedly harassed and their lawyer was grievously injured in order to coerce him to withdraw from the case, the Media didn’t find anything extraordinary in that.

    When Taslima Nasreen’s press conference was rudely disrupted and chairs and all sorts of dangerous objects were thrown at her in full glare of the cameras by the “secular” muslim jihadis of Hyderabad lead by the MLAs of Majlis Ittehadul Muslimeen (MIM), the Media didnt at all find anything amiss in that.

    When Laxmi Oraon, an Adivasi woman was brutally thrashed and paraded naked through the streets of Guwahati, Assam, with the whole police paraphernalia and official state machinery in tow, the Media chose to downplay the episode since, the victim was a hapless adivasi woman from the lower strata of society.

    The Media felt that since all the above unsavoury incidents had occured in the states lead by Madam Sonia Antonia Maino’s puppets, it is all perfectly legitimate and absolutely secular and progressive.

    Kudos to the Media who are the Real Talibans of India.

  9. B Shantanu says:

    All: Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    ***
    @ Sabari, Blogger and Kiran: I will have a look at the links.

    ***

    Kaffir: Good idea…I hope someone picks it up…The series on Indian media is an humble attempt in that direction although clearly a LOT more needs to be done…

    I would request all readers to post links/articles which they feel are biased for a discussion here. Thanks.

  10. Suhas Phanse says:

    What is the meaning of Satyameva Jayate ?
    Choose one of the following two options:
    1. Truth prevails or Truth alone triumphs.
    2. Whatever prevails/triumphs is truth.
    The choice is expected to be logical.
    Media reports what has prevailed and therefore tells the truth. Media tends to mix views with facts and can therefore distort truth. Some section of the media reveals only part of whatever has happened. Relying entirely on media may not necessarily take one closer to the truth.
    Visit suhasphanse.blog.co.in

  11. Pratap says:

    Dear friends,

    Let us wake up and smell the coffee. All Indians must know what is store for them tomorrow if they do not act today.

    Looks like Mughalistan is going to be the future of India – unless we act NOW:

    http://www.bengalgenocide.com/mughalistan.php

  12. Nishka says:

    I put this on another blog but it may be relevant

    Methinks that this antipathy of the mainstream media to bloggers goes much deeper than what we see. It actually represents a pretty deep divide in Indian society. I will go back to schooldays. Remember when you were a middle class kid in an elite school. Parents stuggled to put you there. You would carry your lunch box that Mom prepared and watch the rich/elite kids in school. Two categories the newly rich who would probably be working as hard as you and also spend their weekends in family businesses and the other elite which comprised of kids of old rich families, media people, IAS, IFS etc. The latter group represented the families that did fine during the British Raj. I also remember how patronizing most of them were. They spoke English with the british accent (never went to britain to study), had “liberal” views and actually thought the british raj benefited India.
    The rest of us middle class folks were products of desi type families refugees from Pakistan, Kashmir and other riff raff.
    The interesting thing was that these “elite” were only good at History, English etc, while the rest of us wanted to crack the quant and science subjects so that there was a chance in hell for us after school. Our parents could not fund foreign, private edu so we’d better get into good college, eng, medicine etc.
    And I tell you these guys resented us deep inside for performing well academically. Remember the term muggoos.
    Anyway, cut the long story short I was really puzzled as to how someone who got 60% in their boards could get into brown – they wrrote the write essays decrying Indias poverty and their experiences of the same (think deepa mehta, suzanne roy. Most of them went “abroad” for undergrads to do English, pol science etc, while those who stayed back stuck to these subjects in Indian colleges to go out later for some journalism degree or other.
    The blogger vs. English media divide represents exactly this. The english media comprises of the sepoys who cannot tolerate to be upstaged by middle class desis like us. After all they are the representatives of the great west (as is half the congress party). The rest of us are middle class Indians. The desis who worked their way up, whose parents struggled to get us a good education. We can now speak after 60 years of independence. And what we are saying disturbs the status quo. The desi group is nationalistic and vigorous and speaks English (with an accent).
    This is just the tip of the iceberg. This clash will happen everywhere including politics (just you wait congress) and education

  13. Vinay says:

    A similar thing occurs at gendercide.org’s depiction of the tensions in Punjab in the 80s. They say “hindu mobs, Hindus etc’ talking of the congress organized 1984 riots (where all the HIndu parties – RSS/BJP/Shiv Sena etc. actually fought on the side of the sikhs), but call sikh terrorists “Punjabi terrorists.” Similarly, they say “hindus killed sikhs” in 1984, but say “punjabi terrorists asked all sikhs to leave trains and fired at the rest” not mentioning that the “rest’ means hindus.

  14. Dev says:

    http://outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20090209&fname=Cover+Story&sid=6

    Pale Fires Don’t Scorch
    Deviants of Mangalore and Malegaon are demonised fallaciously

    Francois Gautier

    When I began reporting, I went to interview the RSS leadership in Delhi, expecting, from what I had heard, a few bloodthirsty fascists. I was surprised to meet those old daddies with their long khaki shorts, who would not hurt a fly. Twenty-five years later, the word ‘Hindu Talibanisation’ is being heard amidst the clamour following the odious pub episode in Mangalore. Such incidents should be condemned, as it has no precedent in Indian history—from Prithviraj Chauhan to Shivaji, Hindus respected the women of even their enemies. Yet, I beg to disagree: this is not about the Talibanisation of Hindu groups, it is about their demonisation.

    British colonisers in league with the Christian missionaries realised 200 years ago that the biggest obstacle to fully subjugating India was Hinduism, as it was ancient, woven into the fabric of life and held the country together. They set upon defaming Hinduism, by dwelling on what they perceived as its negatives: castes, sati, superstition, etc. Simultaneously, they created in a span of two or three generations a class of Indians who looked up only to the West.

    Macaulay, the architect of the scheme, summed it up in his Minute on Education: “We must do our best to form a class of persons, Indians in blood and colour, but English in taste, in opinions, in morals and in intellect.” Macaulay despised Indian culture: “Hindus have a literature of small intrinsic value, hardly reconcilable with morality, full of monstrous superstitions….” The demonisation of Hinduism was apace.

    As a result, these Anglicised Indians became ashamed of their own culture. This Western/anti-Hindu outlook was handed down from generation to generation, right down to our age, where many of India’s brilliant and articulate Hindu-Marxist intellectuals, products all of institutions like jnu, or St Stephen’s, keep on repeating, as if by rote, what their hoary forebears were taught by the British. And unfortunately, they pass it back to their friends from the West, neatly marking a full circle. How else could a film like Slumdog Millionaire, made by an Englishman, which literally craps on India from the very first frame, be feted by most of India’s intelligentsia? How else could India specialists like Christophe Jaffrelot peddle to his gullible French readers the spurious theory that there is a “Hindu tradition of terror”?

    Politically, the Congress just took over from the British, as I explain in my new book (A New History of India, 2008, Har Anand), and used its English-speaking press to present Hindu social and political parties as fanatical and ridiculous. The goal was to corner the Muslim vote, which was—and still remains—achieved. It does not help today that the supreme leader of India is a Christian. Whether her aides or her ministers (many of them capable people in their own right) rush to gratify her in true bhakti spirit or whether she directly speaks her will, one does not know. But what better way to please her than by equating Hindu fundamentalism with the Muslim one and to turn the flak on to small Hindu outfits which are amateur lambs compared to the Islamic ones?

    There are two standards today used by India’s media and intelligentsia. One for minorities and the other for Hindus. It is totally illogical: if 4,00,000 Hindus are hounded out of the Kashmir Valley which has always been their home, nobody protests; but New Delhi has been rooting for Palestinians for four decades and recently donated a million dollars for their welfare. When blast after blast wrecks Indian markets, when trains are bombed, hotels attacked by men worse than animals, intellectuals blame it on Babri Masjid (where nobody was killed) or Gujarat (triggered by the burning of 59 innocent Hindus).But when a few Hindus plan to establish a Hindu rashtra and plot a clumsy, small-scale revenge, they are equated with deadly fundamentalists. A universal theorem is made of their single act, which should stand out as isolated, because Hindus have been for thousands of years tolerant to the point of cowardice. Our intellectuals never theorised when, in Kashmir, militants used to throw acid on women who did not cover up, but now devote reams to the goons of Mangalore.

    Finally, to be fair, one has to say that a lot of prudishness has seeped into India because of the Islamic purdah and, later, Victorian stuffiness. Yet, Hinduism always enjoined its adherents to live life fully, including its sexual aspect. We do not want an Indian youth which blindly apes the West: drinking, drugs and promiscuity. But the Hindu political leadership should also shun rough, prudish and moralistic acts which will only alienate its young voters.

    ——————————————————————————–

    (Francois Gautier is the editor-in-chief of the Paris-based La Revue l’Inde)

  15. B Shantanu says:

    To add to the discussion, please read: Reject the biased media

    and STOP WATCHING NDTV

  16. B Shantanu says:

    Spotted by alert reader Seema:

    The link to this article has the words “Hindu Terrorists” in the URL although the report uses the word “activists”.

    Title: “Hindu activists attack missionary school”

    URL: http://www.indianexpress.com/news/hindu-terrorists-strike-again/418392/

  17. B Shantanu says:

    AR has published this this post on his blog with the following preface:

    B Shantanu blogs with a zeal for the Hindu cause. He is definitely very communal in his approach, but I thought this article he wrote was worth thinking about. For a few seconds anyway. Then I remembered this is what he looks for – signs of Hindus being victimized to make a case for the majority.

    In response, I have left the following comment (on his blog). I am reproducing this below for the record:

    AR: Thanks for posting the article here…I am curious to read your thoughts on these reports…

    Any views?

    It would be even nicer if you could leave a comment on my blog..

    Also, could you please help me understand what you mean by “He is definitely very communal in his approach…”

    ***

    Separately, I hope you get a chance to consider the plight of Kashmiri refugees in India during your panel discussion at WUSC today.

    Here is one of the links that may be relevant:

    http://www.tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne291108in_exile.asp

  18. Indian says:

    It seems AR definitely got insecure and uncomfortable with the facts in the above post. He resorted by adding the preface.

  19. B Shantanu says:

    Kaffir left the following comment on AR’s blog which I am reproducing below:

    AR, would you be interested in engaging Shantanu in a discussion and responding to his post by telling us *why* you think that post by Shantanu is communal? Is it communal to point out media bias? Journalism is about honest reporting, not about taking sides with minority or majority. That kind of divisive approach is best left behind, if India is to make some progress.

    Thanks Kaffir.

  20. Blogger says:

    @18

    Four Indians held in Spain for terror links

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/four-indians-held-in-spain-for-suspected-terror-links/84421-2.html

    Of course if they were Hindus (which wouldn’t happen), media would have gone crazy by now. Amazingly, they didn’t use the word muslim even once in the article even when they have links with al-qaida. Puppet Manmohan is set to loose his sleep again.

  21. Kiran P says:

    *** COMMENT MOVED HERE ***

    *** NOTE by MODERATOR ***

    Kiran: Pl. post comments on the appropriate thread(s). There are several ways to find the right thread. Use the “search” box, or the “Categories” drop down menu and/or google!

  22. Blogger says:

    I didn’t know there was a separate NDTV Arabia. I thought NDTV was Arabia news channel itself.

    http://arabia.ndtv.com

  23. Kaffir says:

    Shantanu, no problem. Discussion of issues with those who have a different viewpoint is always preferable.


    It seems AR definitely got insecure and uncomfortable with the facts in the above post. He resorted by adding the preface.

    Indian, too early to say – let’s give him some time to respond, and state his perspective and reasons for his opinion of Shantanu’s post.

  24. Jayadevan says:

    Like this headline better?

    http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOI&BaseHref=TOIBG/2009/02/07&PageLabel=1&EntityId=Ar00105&ViewMode=HTML&GZ=T

    Maybe they are starting a Babu Bajrangi franchise in town. His business of tracking down Patel girls who have eloped with boys from other castes and religions and effecting a “Ghar Vaapasi” was doing quite well when last heard of.

    Wrong father. Kunhambu didn’t pay, the idiot!

  25. Indian says:

    @Jayadvan

    I will be back with the patel girl topic! I have known one case about patel girl kidnapped and lost for ever. They sold her somewhere in brothel from where she cannot return. And surprisingly muslims were the one who brought Mujras in the country and many are still involved in this business in another form of mujras.

    And very honestly and seriously my impression about Keralite muslims hating Gujaratis is becoming strong. I have come across many who as soon as hear about Gujarati and Patel they will get mad. I need to find and dig out more on this topic. Hmm… May be patels and gujaratis are strong enough to lock horn with them?. K. Muslims have got some idea that its hard to penetrate in Gujarat and defeat Gujjus?. well! more on this later.

  26. v.c.krishnan says:

    Dear Sir,
    Hooliganism and Talibanisation in the land of the free and the brave. Oh yes Sir, the top officials in LA a.k.a. Los Angeles have made the wearing of “Underwear showing jeans, Tops showing the sidses of Bra’s and Low hip jeans showing the cleft of the Buttocks a crime ;” How dare they?
    May be they should come to the land of lawlessness and irresponsible freedom, where even illegal pubs can exist and should not be questioned. ( I am quoting the NCW investigator Mrs. Venkatesh) Surprise! Surprise for our Secular and freedom fighters!!
    Che! Che! what hooligans. May be some of our articulate leaders and press should take a cue and take up the matter on behalf of these poor “Cleft showers”!
    I am sorry, it takes two hands to clap; and therefore one view point need not jell with the other as long it is not Shri. Modi or Hinduism, in which case even a “Handless Person” can make noise!!!
    Regards,
    vck

  27. AR says:

    B Shantanu & Kaffir

    Thank you for being so patient.

    And Kaffir, thank you for your reply to Indian’s comment here on Feb 3.

    First, B Shantanu:
    The reason I follow your blog is only partly because you blog for the Hindu cause. This post is a great one – because it cleverly seems to portray media bias.
    The reason I think it doesn’t is simple – you highlight the different use of terminology, but you miss the point that whether they are referred to as goons or activists is irrelevant, because the SRS is known to be a Hindutva outfit, and as you know, Hindutva is a political ideology with a right wing agenda. The MIM is essentially the same, without the economic right wing agenda, but the same religious zealotry and bigotry. The media has called Islamic fundamentalists terrorists before, and there’s no reason why these Hindutva brandishing goons shouldn’t be called what they are. As far as I am concerned, I do not care which religious group causes communal disharmony. I am only concerned with the occurrence of communal disharmony. Please correct me if I am wrong, but from reading your posts so far, and by the nature of comments you seem to be getting, you seem to harbour a nationalistic fervour for the Hindu cause.

    On another note, thank you for the comment – the panel discussion was smooth, and we did get a chance to touch upon the Kashmiri issue, albeit after the event through interpersonal interaction.

    Second, Kaffir:
    Thank you for both your comments. I have inserted a footnote regarding the inception of the term “secular” into the Preamble of the constitution of India.

    In closing, B Shantanu, I am curious to know your position. In your post about “the beginning”, you have said that you are neither a “Hindu fascist” or a “neo-conservative” both of which I am prepared to grant. But thereon you proclaim your “pride” in being Hindu. The problem I find with that is you identify strongly with the Hindu Dharma, but there is no mention of being Indian. Only Bharat. The terminology you have chosen sounds awfully Hindutva-like to me. But let me know if I’m mistaken. Even more importantly, I’d like to know what you think about secularism as a concept in the Indian context. Maybe you could link me to a post you’ve already written.

  28. Nanda says:

    oops. Many of us in Karnataka refer to our country as ‘bharatha desa’. I never knew this is a communal word. I am from TN, actually most of us in our family, relatives and friends circle in tamilnadu use the word ‘bharatha desam’. I don’t mean to be sarcastic, but I’m really surprised and hurt.
    If this word itself is taken so communal, we all actually wear tilak, tulsi mala, white dhoti, most of us do bhajans, poojas, and services to temples. Are we branded as anti-secular and communal even by knowledgeable people like AR, omg, it will really be a big let down for me and others like me. I am not exagerating, but its my genuine concern.

  29. Pankaj says:

    Please don’t compare incomparable things. It is not “terrorism” to push a few people around (In many countries, that would not even be an offence under the law). It IS terrorism to kill entire populations, such as the Taliban did to the Hazaras, just because the latter were shia muslims.

    In our media/left/pseudosecular rush to find SOMETHING to taint the pacifist hindus with, they end up equating molehills to mountains.

    If pushing people around makes one a terrorist, most of us have been terrorists at some point of our life or the other!

    Terrorism is when you KILL people. Is that not clear to some of those posting here? What happened to Mumbai on 26/11 was terrorism. What a few goons did in Mangalore was NOT terrorism – as I said, many countries don’t even consider than anything other than a petty offence punishable with a fine and community work.

    I live in the US. If I push a few people outside a pub around, I will probably get 20 hrs community service as my penalty. If I did what muslims do – go around killing people, blowing up people – I will get the death sentence. DO you still not see the difference?

  30. Kiran P says:

    Reading the comments I am very disturbed, may be I missed this ‘secular’ development in ever changing India.

    Bharata – that’s how I call in my mother tongue Kannada. Bharat in Hindi and other variants in other languages. When did this become communal. When we are all shedding colonial constructs like Bangalore, Calcutta, Madras and getting to our roots. If we go by this trend India should be altogether dropped. What’s the SICKular logic behind Bharat being ‘communal’? If I lookup wikipedia ‘Hindustan’ is also another term. Now I can sense why the jehadis oppose that. But why Bharat. Can someone please tell me. Thanks.

  31. Indian says:

    Can someone list-How many Islamic countries working for Hindu Cause and Hindus?

    What kind of secularism so called secular are in search of? When someone can ban Vande Mataram in the name of religion in secular country is fair, but to say I am Hindu in Hindustan is crime!! AR is doing exactly the same as if readers and commenters of this blog are doing offense when the speak of rights and wrongs of Hindus. Than where would we go? In Saudi Arab where even temples are not allowed?

    I think those who speak big of secular country should begin talk to those who are working against the ethos of country and harbouring the love for another country. Big e.g. Fahim Ansari and his gang of UP who helped terrorists. No religion must come in the business of the country. If this privilege is granted to one than it must be for everyone. Why Hurt?
    What A. R Antuley did? He tried his best to trap some Hindus in the name of Hindutva causing trouble. And he came up with very interesting story he cooked up in his mind. This is only one sample. There are many such samples in country called India. Where was his sanity?

    Again secular people dont like if someone questions them! So, Shh…shh…quiet please! and keep silent!

  32. Hari says:

    We seem to be in a situation similar to 1000AD, when a storm was preparing to invade Hindu Dharma in the form of Mahmud Ghazni, and we were so shortsighted that we were focussing on silly internal issues.

    That storm today is the Taliban, which is all set to take over Pakistan. Is there a SINGLE good analysis in the English media on what that might mean for India? Today Asif Zardari told US News that “The taliban hold sway over large parts of Pakistan…. We are fighting for survival.” That is seriously scary, and seriously important.

    And our media is focussing national attention on a non-issue called Mutalik.

    This media is doing what Jaichand did (during Ghori invasion).

  33. Om says:

    Let me be clear – I think Pramod Muthalik is being thoroughly insane by making a big deal out of V-Day. But I think there is something sinister about our english media making this into a huge issue. What are the ground realities? A few goons (10 or so) have gone on 2-3 pushing around sprees. That’s it. That kind of pushing around that happens on India’s streets thousands of times daily. No one has been hurt, no one killed.

    Is this really something the Times should carry as headlines news? It is, when you realize who owns the times, and which party line they are towing. The Times is a propaganda tool.

    Hell, if tomorrow a VHP person has a fight with his neigbor about the dog barking, the times will put that on headlines with “VHP bullying …”

    The Daily pioneer is doing a great job, as are some blogs. The big picture is not Muthalik. The big picture today is Islam’s continued 1300 year assault on Hindu Dharma. The big picture is the Jamaat-i-Islami’s statements that it wants to Islamize India and make Hindus slaves. The big picture is the LeT training terror. The big picture is the Taliban almost taking over all of Pakistan.

    Muthalik is not even worth 1 line in a national daily. Yet he gets headlines. Why? Let’s investigate who owns India’s media, and what they are trying to push. Shantanu – can you please run a story on this. The complete subversion of our national media is a matter of national security. Because national media can distract people from real existential issues, and make non-issues like Muthalik seem important.

    A few good blogs – gatesofvienna, dharmaveer, etc. These guys are talking about the real issues. I hardly read the newspapers anymore, because while we are fighting a 1300 year old war, the papers want us to focus on stuff that has absolutely no significance.

  34. Patriot says:

    @Om – so anyone you do not agree with is biased? Paid for? A fifth column?

    Why don’t *YOU* start a newspaper, reporting what you deem fit and run it as a successful business? Seeing how many people here condemn the MSM, it should be a hit, right?

    Are you on?

  35. Patriot says:

    @ All:
    If you do not like a news channel, change it
    If you do not like a newspaper, do not buy it
    If you do not like a commentator, do not read him

    If sufficient number of you disgruntled folks do the above, then the “biased” commentators would be out of business, anyway, right?

    And, do you really, really think that the English channels/newspapers set policy or change policy in our nation?

    If your answer is yes, I will have whatever you are having! 🙂

  36. Raju says:

    The Indian media is not faithful to the readers and viewers but the share holders. These companies are either totaly holding of minority or majority shares are belongs to minority. It will be interesting to see some one come up with analysis that why these media clawns jumps with the tune comes from the minority of India? Long time back in the stafroom of the school, one teacher ramarked…..”In News Papers, the name of the paper, date and doves are the correct one the balance is falls!”.

    Looking at media of these days the teacher was right. Nautanki New makers of the claim, they are number one…..they are fastest,….buy in fact they are the cheap shots and bias to Hindus.

  37. Churchill Kumar Shah says:

    I think our Govt must ban parties like MIM this is the worst party in India it does nothing good to India but useful to pakistan and rest of the gulf countries and MIM MLA’s like Afsar Khan, Ahmed Pasha and Mouzam Khan must be suspended from the office.This are the some of the main people which causes harmful to India.

  38. B Shantanu says:

    Courtesy an anonymous email:

    http://m.timesofindia.com/city/delhi/One-dead-several-hurt-as-bikers-go-berserk/articleshow/20769808.cms

    Jun 26, 2013, 02.33AM IST TNN

    NEW DELHI: There was chaos on city streets late Monday night as around 2,000 bikers in festive mood zipped dangerously through traffic and showed off stunts, resulting in the death of one rider and injuries to several others, including two policemen who were targeted with stones.
    Traffic came to a halt at several places as hundreds of commuters
    returning home late were caught in a frenzy with the bikers pulling
    wheelies, weaving in and out of lanes and even stopping cars. Some
    reportedly jumped on bonnets of cars and banged on the windows.

    The ‘wild’ celebrations again exposed the poor preparedness of police
    who had reason to expect chaos because of Shab-e-Barat festivities,
    which on previous years has seen dangerous driving late at night.
    The worst hit areas were India Gate, Connaught Place, ITO crossing,
    Bahadur Shah Zafar Marg, Delhi Gate, Pragati Maidan and Sunder Nagar.
    The mayhem spilled over to the BRT around Oberoi flyover as the cops
    tightened vigil at India Gate and ITO areas.
    Police said a biker lost his life when he, along with two other bikes, jumped a redlight and collided with a car coming from the opposite direction. Two policemen sustained injuries in stone pelting by a mob while several bikers hurt themselves while performing stunts on roads, cops said.
    Police claimed they took strict action and detained 11 men, seized 90
    bikes and registered two criminal cases at Tilak Marg and Mandir Marg
    police stations under sections of rioting, causing hurt to a public
    servant and obstructing a public servant.
    Some of the seized bikes are suspected to be stolen, police said. Four men were arrested and others detained under the Delhi Police Act. The traffic police said 234 challans were issued through the night – 93 of them in the southern range, 97 in central , 28 in western, 13 eastern and three in the northern range. All challans pertained to dangerous driving, triple riding and driving without helmet.
    Cops said 40 pickets had been set up and around 100 traffic personnel were posted there along with local police and PCR.
    On Monday, police had said they had made adequate arrangements by
    distributing pamphlets in colonies asking youths to refrain from such
    activities and roped in elderly people through community policing so
    that the youths are convinced. However, the efforts clearly went in
    vain.
    The tone for the night set in around 9pm when bikers
    began to assemble in different areas. The situation remained under
    control in the first two hours due to the heavy police presence.
    However, all hell broke lose after midnight when police presence
    decreased. People could see three or even four men riding on one bike.
    Commuters returning home late at night had harrowing stories to tell.
    Utkarsh Anand, an engineering student, was travelling back with his
    mother after having dinner at Connaught Place. “I started at 11.30pm in
    my car and reached home at 1.15am and thanked my stars. I was scared and my mother began to cry seeing the mob go crazy. When I signalled two bikers to move from the way, they began to bang on my window panes.
    There were policemen on the side of the road who were doing just
    nothing,” he said.

    Many women TOI spoke to said they had the worse time of their lives reaching home. Many women driving alone could be seen in tears. Families were shocked after the mob stopped autos and
    even began to do summersaults on their car’s bonnets.

    With bikers weaving through lanes, motorists had to brake often. Many cars had minor collisions. “Why were the police so helpless?” asked Rekha, a housewife who was returning home with her husband after watching a movie at Connaught Place.

    Even commuters coming from other parts of the city were caught in the frenzy as they crossed India Gate, which had been virtually turned into a fortress.
    The bikers went on the rampage after police began to seize their vehicles and detain them around midnight.

    **
    The email sender wondered whether the reason no names were mentioned had something to do with some “secular” considerations…
    Also watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SUfDudttNw
    and this (from 2012): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekYycDHrrVI

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