Interview with Deepak Mittal, “Jago Party”

I first heard of “Jago Party” a few months ago during some meetings I had in Delhi.  Earlier this month, I finally got around to visiting their website and leaving a comment requesting an interview with their founders/ leaders.

I was impressed by the speed of response…My comment was acknowledged within a day and I got responses to my email questions within a week…Without further ado, below is an email interview with Deepak Mittal, Founder President of “Jago Party”.

Please also read Interview with Ujjwal Banerjee – Part I and Interview with Geeta Gokhale, BPD – Part I 

*** Interview begins ***

Q. What is your stance towards economic reforms?

A. In a recent (2008) survey done by World Bank in respect of ease of doing business, India stands at the dismal rank of 122 out of 181 countries. There is an urgent need to facilitate private investment in all areas of economy. Besides, several government and public sector enterprises are working as a drag on the economy by remaining financially unviable, inefficient and corrupt. They should be either privatized or run on commercial lines. Number of taxes and tax rates need to be reduced drastically. Government spending in the name of the poor by way of various welfare schemes and subsidy is ridden with massive corruption and inefficiency and hence it must be completely dismantled. This should be replaced by direct transfer of cash to the poor. All these measures have already been included in the manifesto of Jago Party.

Q. What is your position on campaign finance? Corruption in elections/ vote-rigging?

A. At present, political parties are partly funded by individuals and companies, some of whom expect special favors from such parties when they come to power. Ideally, core campaigning by all political parties must be done through mass media and supported by state funding. This would reduce political corruption substantially. But, in a democratic set up, people and institutions should not be prevented from funding a political party. So, political favors to donors must be checked by alert media, stringent laws and transparent decision-making processes in the government.

Computerization of the entire voting process would substantially reduce malpractices in voting.

Q. What are your views on reservations in education, jobs, promotions, private sector (and reservations on the basis of caste, religion, socio-economic measures?

A.  Jago Party is against all reservations – whether it is based on caste, religion, sex, place, income or whatever. Reservation devalues merit and hard work and thus is an impediment in our progress. Dismantling of all reservations and providing free, vocation-oriented education in English medium private schools for all is therefore the first objective of Jago Party. For pursuing higher and technical education, we support providing scholarships and soft loans to poor students.

Q.  What is your position with regards to hot-pursuit across the border?

A. Hot-pursuit of terrorists across the border into a country is justified if the latter is not taking any action against terrorists and offers safe refuge to them.

Q. Views on sanctions against Pakistan?

A. Jago Party is against having normal relations with Pakistan until Pakistan stops instigating terrorism in India and dismantles its  infrastructure for breeding and training terrorists.

Q. Views on taxes – should there be an infrastructure tax?

A. At present, India has too many types of taxes such as Income tax, Corporate tax, Wealth tax, Sales tax, Service tax, Excise duty, Customs duty, Fringe benefit tax, Gift tax, Luxury tax, Octroi, stamp duty, Revenue stamp etc with rates as high as 30% for highest slabs in Income tax and 33% for Corporate tax. Since Jago Party would reduce government activities and eliminate loss making public sector undertakings, its need to raise revenue by higher rates of taxation would be much less. Besides, the earnings from disinvestment capital would also reduce the need to tax at high rates.
Hence, Jago Party aims at reducing the number of types of taxes. Besides, no tax rate including Income Tax would be more than 10 %. Persons having annual income up to Rs 4.0 lakh would be fully exempted from Income tax. Tax laws would be simplified by abolishing all exemptions and exceptions. The increase in economic activities would compensate the loss of revenue & will increase job opportunities. Low tax rate would mean better compliance, more revenue and less corruption.

Q. Views on the parallel economy: how do you see the problem and who would you deal with it?

A. Generation of huge amount of black money in India (which we call parallel economy) is due to high tax rates, too many bureaucratic hurdles in earning an honest livelihood, “looting” of public money by politicians and government babus in the name of the subsidy to the poor/public works and weak legal system to detect and punish the corrupt. Lack of state support for election campaigns also gives rise to unaccounted money. All these institutional shortcomings in the system result in corruption and generation of black money.
 
Our emphasis on reduction in taxes and free market economic policies will resolve all these issues automatically. Dismantling of all bureaucratic hurdles and subsidy regimes would unleash private enterprise tremendously. We also support state funding for election campaigns.
We will bring back this black money into the mainstream economy by permitting it to be invested without being asked any embarrassing questions from the government and with just 10% taxes. This will give a big boost to the growth of economy eventually yielding more employment, wealth and taxes.

Q. Views on “criminalization” of politics and views on banning people with criminal convictions from standing for elections?
 
A. Criminals are being given tickets by certain political parties in order to win elections. These criminals win elections because through muscle power, they can deliver certain goodies to voters. This sorry state of affairs is symptomatic. It is due to the fact that government institutions intended to provide justice, infrastructure and honest earning of livelihood by a common man have collapsed.

Hence, Jago Party intends to overhaul justice system and empower police. It wants to dismantle all obstructions for growth of a healthy private sector, which alone can ensure putting in place the required infrastructure and jobs at a fast speed. For example, if a slum dweller can get water connection easily at a reasonable price from a private service provider, why would he pester the local criminal MLA to get him a connection from the municipality through the use of threat?

Q. What is the single biggest problem in Indian politics today? Is it corruption? Criminalization? Lack of competence? Fragmentation of electoral base – along casteist, religious, regional lines? Something else?

A. The biggest basic problem in Indian politics is the inability on part of a large number of voters to rise above their narrow individual interests on lines of caste, community, place or religion. An enlightened political leadership could have refused to pander to such narrow interests of voters and put before them only those options which were in the national interest. Unfortunately, Indian politicians succumbed to these narrow group interests. As responsible leaders, they could not guide people properly. Jago Party refuses to be a part of such spineless leadership. We believe that with sustained educational campaigning, people can be made to understand what is in the interest of the country. It may take time, but we are prepared for it.

Q. What is the most important “social” issue facing our country today?

A. It is the rise of religious fanaticism. Despite so much development of science and technology, majority of the people are unable to think scientifically. They still stick to their religious dogmas without any rational basis and are ready to kill or be killed for the sake of such irrational beliefs. Roots of terrorism lie in such beliefs.

Q. what is the most important “economic” issue facing us today?

A. It is the mismatch between demand and supply. Today, there is a demand for skilled people, but government – controlled educational system is unable to supply it.  There is a demand for good roads, electricity, water etc and people are willing to pay for these products, but governments which have monopolized these sectors, are unable to supply these goods.

This mismatch is happening because we fail to realize that governments are inherently inefficient as service providers and hence their role should be that of a facilitator, not of a service provider.

*** End of Interview ****

Thank you Deepak. You and your members will have my strong support in your endeavours. And I do hope we will get a chance to meet face-to-face in the not too distant future.  Jai Hind!

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B Shantanu

Political Activist, Blogger, Advisor to start-ups, Seed investor. One time VC and ex-Diplomat. Failed mushroom farmer; ex Radio Jockey. Currently involved in Reclaiming India - One Step at a Time.

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14 Responses

  1. v.c.krishnan says:

    Dear Shantanu,
    Is this guy tru? Does he have a backing? The philosophy he propunds is too realistic, I am totally for it, but is it possible.
    I wish that he at least gets one state and makes a difference.
    One point I wish to make for Shri. Mittal. Get the biased media out of your eyesight and meet the people at the grassroots level.
    Get the “Stephenains, Nehruvians, JNUites, and the educated from the “St’s colleges and schools”.out of your ambit.
    He will make the grade.
    Regards,
    vck

  2. B Shantanu says:

    @ vck: You are right…They appear to be pragmatic in their views and approach…

    I have not met Deepak in person yet but hope to see him sometime soon.

    Pl. feel free to correspond directly with them via their website and do share your thoughts/experiences with us…

    Thanks.

  3. Dear Shantanu

    Thanks for this. The philosophy of Jago Party is entirely liberal, being therefore compatible with the fundamental views of the Freedom Team.

    So Jago Party should have no problem in having its nominated members join FTI as the association of like-minded leaders wanting to provide India with good governance. If nothing else, some FTI people could consider joining Jago Party and contesting elections earlier, should they so wish. FTI does not require any existing effort to change or disband. It is merely an association of like-minded leaders wanting to collaboratively contest elections in 2014 and beyond on a regular basis.

    Could you please suggest that Mr Deepak Mittal consider having their entire leadership team join FTI? (I ask this favour of you since you have his email ID and have been in touch with him). They won’t have to ‘apply’ to join, as others have to do, since from what I hear, they already fulfil the qualifications to join FTI. As such, they could merely write to me at sabhlok AT yahoo DOT com with their email IDs.

    Regards
    Sanjeev

  4. Patriot says:

    Thanks, Shantanu, for taking the effort to contact these folks and posting their response. I am also impressed by the quick turnaround and the lucidity of the replies.

    However, I have some concerns after visiting their website –
    First, the legal action proposed for corruption, dacoity and rape –
    http://www.jago.in/jago-more.php?id=11

    This seems like a very illiberal view, granting the state powers to judicially execute people in more than than the rarest of rare cases. I do not believe that this will ever stand the test of freedom and constitutionality. It seems like not enough thought has been given to the issue, but a quick short cut is attempted. This may be pleasing to hear for many people, but proposing the death penalty for all and sundry crimes is not the way to building a modern society.

    Second, to say that judgement will *always* be delivered in 3 months and only 1 appeal will be allowed subverts the judicial system in India. While I fully support the cause of quicker justice, artificial deadlines like the above seems to indicate a lack of thought.

    Then, you have this:
    http://www.jago.in/jago-more.php?id=15

    To say that 24×7 electricity will be available in all villages, and that too at Rs2/unit shows a lack of understanding of the economics of the situation. Power is not like wireless telephony – it requires huge infrastructure to carry it from one point to another, which has to be paid for.

    I would urge the Jaago Party to provide data as to which other country has managed to provide power to their people at Rs2/unit, without cross-subsidies.

    But, finally, I must say I really liked this idea:
    http://www.jago.in/news.php?id=23

    Simple and brilliant idea.

    Cheers

  5. महेश पाटील says:

    @ Shantanu,

    The only worrying factor which we practically as Bharat Punarnirman Dal sometimes face from these new partys is … their sustainibility because after Lok Paritran fiasco the entire States of Tamil Nadu and city of Bangaloru,Karnataka has got immune to these new start ups party which promise youth in politics and good goverence and at the end of the day these partys go BUST.. so when we as BPD enter these cities and states, people have become so wiery about us too.. and we have to prove doubly or four times the normal effort is required to established our base over there.

    No doubt Jago,BUM,PPI,Swarajya Party ( http://swarajyaparty.org/ ) BRSP etc really Want to do good for the country but when they go bust or go in hybernations due to whatever reasons .. they become a party pooper in already an environment where the affinity of people towards politics is less.

    I am glad though Bharat Punarnirman Dal has become a bell weather or the bench mark within these new partys after 2 years of struggle .. but still i hope these new partys understand the difference between kiddesh politics and mature politics.

    Shantanu i guess you have interviewed many new budding political partys about their ideologies and manefestos etc.. maybe you should conduct a second interviews with them and ask for their political activity report
    in terms of
    1)election contested and no of vote garnered,
    2)issues raised and % of issue solved,
    3)Has their USP being established and what is their USP
    4)Organizational Structure expansion and in howmany states and districts
    5)How many Road rallys and road demonstration conducted?
    (as many of these partys still sit in their A/C room and
    only plan…)

    etc etc.. so design such paramters and interview all of these new start ups

    further if you ever conduct the delhi meet you are planning.. i would seriuosly want address them to explain all these budding politicians even age wise maybe be twice to me.. about how ground politics works..

    Jai Hind Jai Maharashtra

  6. B Shantanu says:

    Sanjeev, Patriot and Mahesh: Thanks for your comments…I will follow up in a day or two and also come back with my own thoughts…

    ***

    For now, I will elave everyone with the simple idea that Patriot mentioned in his comment (courtesy Jago Party website):

    Spend Rs. 2, make India new

    SPEND RUPEES TWO, MAKE INDIA NEW!

    Whenever you come across a case of crime, corruption or discrimination, write about it in a few postcards and send them to local newspapers, TV news channels, heads of concerned government departments & also to Jago Party. Remember oral arguments do not work, written complaints do. In case you don’t wish to reveal your identity, write anonymously.

    Remember: Smallest action is much better than the noblest intention !

  7. N.P. Singh says:

    Dear Shantanu

    Thanks for publishing Mr. Mittal’s interview. I agree with all their policies but have a different view on his response to questions 3 and 4 from the bottom.

    Criminalization, corruption and divisiveness is an absolute necessity to win elections in the present system and therefore sooner or later all politicians foster these phenomenon or quit. In my view the solution lies in creating public opinion in favour of a multi-tiered system of governance wherein each and every citizen has an equal opportunity to participate in local governance (at mohalla level) and also to nominate a person of his choice to resprent him at the village level and the process replicated upto the national level. Such a partyless system of governance will be truly democratic, responsive to people’s needs and will marginalize and isolate the extremist and divisive elements in our midst. I will be happy to provide anyone interested with a copy Dr. J.P. Singh’s detailed essay on this issue.

    Nonetheless I wish Jago Party the best and will be happy to help them in any way I can.

    N.P. Singh

  8. B Shantanu says:

    Has anyone heard of (or know of) of this group?

    India Banao

  9. Rohan Bhanot says:

    I am pretty impressed by their manifesto. In paticular, I like the fact that they recognize the state of our education system, and want to reform it. I would like to see some proposed plans of action as to how they would do this, as a whole new system would have to be built up to encourage real learning, not just rote memorization.

  10. Babu Joseph says:

    Interview was excellent.

  11. Indian says:

    I think life time imprisonment is fine for corrupt and rapist. I am in the opinion of abolishing death sentence.

    Jai Hind!

  12. Ajay Singh says:

    I have visited the website and the thoughts of Jago party and I feel if this will happen in India if this party comes to the power with this thought than one day will come India will be a suprepower and will a strongest country in the world.
    Only thing is people of India needs right leadership.

  13. Damodar Prasad Agarwal says:

    I, Damodar Prasad Agarwal,residence of Bhilwara,Rajasthan,is greatly impressed by your party’s manifesto which is the need of present times… and every common man aspires for it….so i would like to join this party and to be a member in it….
    Election for post of chairman for Nagar Parishad and Councilers are to be held on 18th august,2010.
    I want to contest for chairmanship on behalf of your party.
    it is very rare that we agarwals have been given opportunities to prove ourselves.
    as such i will be greatful if you give me one chance.