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		<title>By: Prakash</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/03/03/cowards-cannot-build-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-2534</link>
		<dc:creator>Prakash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patriot: I am not an expert either. I agree that there have been commentaries and columns from politicians and scientists alike on both for and against the deal. The communists in India are up in arms against any partnership with the US irrespective of the benefits. So, I would ignore their call as well. In the US, the bill went through congress (which has politicians from both parties) and got through changes to placate the NPT hawks (mostly democrats). India also being a democracy, you would expect that such a process would be undertaken in India. My main qualm is that the ruling government is pushing the policy without discussing it in the parliament. Moreover, there have been contradicting statements issued from the US side as well as the indian side. This is a deal that would run past the term of this goverment. You have BJP politicians threatening to nullify it if they get to power. The BJP being naturally inclined to partner with the US, I would think congress would actually be happy to discuss it with them. Foreign policy has to be shaped to a certain extent by political consensus so that it is coherent and has a long term vision. If the leading opposition party is not roped in, I dont understand how the deal will be survive and be fruitful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patriot: I am not an expert either. I agree that there have been commentaries and columns from politicians and scientists alike on both for and against the deal. The communists in India are up in arms against any partnership with the US irrespective of the benefits. So, I would ignore their call as well. In the US, the bill went through congress (which has politicians from both parties) and got through changes to placate the NPT hawks (mostly democrats). India also being a democracy, you would expect that such a process would be undertaken in India. My main qualm is that the ruling government is pushing the policy without discussing it in the parliament. Moreover, there have been contradicting statements issued from the US side as well as the indian side. This is a deal that would run past the term of this goverment. You have BJP politicians threatening to nullify it if they get to power. The BJP being naturally inclined to partner with the US, I would think congress would actually be happy to discuss it with them. Foreign policy has to be shaped to a certain extent by political consensus so that it is coherent and has a long term vision. If the leading opposition party is not roped in, I dont understand how the deal will be survive and be fruitful.</p>
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		<title>By: Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Prakash:

Most of the opposition (and the support) is not supported by facts, because of the secrecy surrounding our nuclear program. We can only go by what the experts connected with the nuclear program say.

In that context, the chief scientist of our nuclear program, who was completely against the nuclear deal is now fully in support as are virtually all the nuclear scientists who have gone on record.

The National Security Adviser to the BJP, Brajesh Mishra, was also initially against the deal. Then he said that if the govt told him what was the current status of our deterrence, he would be able to make an intelligent decision as he was aware of the status when he left. He is now in support of the deal, which led Manmohan Singh to make his appeal to Vajpayee (and Advani) to support the deal.

Brahama Chellaney is an external observer ...... I would go by Brajesh Mishra over Chellaney anyday.

And, I think we need to understand the realpolitik of the US as well ..... it is naive on our part if we expect them to completely ignore the Hyde Act as the communists (who are bent on derailing any relations with the US) and their supporters are demanding. This is impossibe given the power of the NPT hawks among US politicians. Given this background, my limited understanding says that we have got a fabulous deal from the US - we are being allowed to stockpile nuclear fuel, we choose the reactors to put under safeguards, we have India-specific covenants with the IAEA (?) ....... these have not been offered to any country in the past, and certainly not one who has not been part of the NPT regime.

But, I am not an expert ........ the experts connected with the nuclear program say this is a good deal. I see no good reason to doubt them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Prakash:</p>
<p>Most of the opposition (and the support) is not supported by facts, because of the secrecy surrounding our nuclear program. We can only go by what the experts connected with the nuclear program say.</p>
<p>In that context, the chief scientist of our nuclear program, who was completely against the nuclear deal is now fully in support as are virtually all the nuclear scientists who have gone on record.</p>
<p>The National Security Adviser to the BJP, Brajesh Mishra, was also initially against the deal. Then he said that if the govt told him what was the current status of our deterrence, he would be able to make an intelligent decision as he was aware of the status when he left. He is now in support of the deal, which led Manmohan Singh to make his appeal to Vajpayee (and Advani) to support the deal.</p>
<p>Brahama Chellaney is an external observer &#8230;&#8230; I would go by Brajesh Mishra over Chellaney anyday.</p>
<p>And, I think we need to understand the realpolitik of the US as well &#8230;.. it is naive on our part if we expect them to completely ignore the Hyde Act as the communists (who are bent on derailing any relations with the US) and their supporters are demanding. This is impossibe given the power of the NPT hawks among US politicians. Given this background, my limited understanding says that we have got a fabulous deal from the US &#8211; we are being allowed to stockpile nuclear fuel, we choose the reactors to put under safeguards, we have India-specific covenants with the IAEA (?) &#8230;&#8230;. these have not been offered to any country in the past, and certainly not one who has not been part of the NPT regime.</p>
<p>But, I am not an expert &#8230;&#8230;.. the experts connected with the nuclear program say this is a good deal. I see no good reason to doubt them.</p>
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		<title>By: Prakash</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/03/03/cowards-cannot-build-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-2532</link>
		<dc:creator>Prakash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patriot:

Opposition to the nuclear deal does not mean that one is just biased against the US. I am not in favour of the nuclear deal but I do welcome the strategic partnership. Plenty of experts including scientists from AEC, politicians (excluding communists) and political analysts have voiced their discontent with the deal. I know there is plenty of support for it too. I just think it must be debated in the parliament. In fact, all foreign policy issues must have political consensus. If it is such a good deal, why is the congress party trying to push the deal without trying for political consensus. I dont know if you have read Brahma Chellaney&#039;s articles. He brings up a lot of valid points. Try his blog - http://chellaney.spaces.live.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patriot:</p>
<p>Opposition to the nuclear deal does not mean that one is just biased against the US. I am not in favour of the nuclear deal but I do welcome the strategic partnership. Plenty of experts including scientists from AEC, politicians (excluding communists) and political analysts have voiced their discontent with the deal. I know there is plenty of support for it too. I just think it must be debated in the parliament. In fact, all foreign policy issues must have political consensus. If it is such a good deal, why is the congress party trying to push the deal without trying for political consensus. I dont know if you have read Brahma Chellaney&#8217;s articles. He brings up a lot of valid points. Try his blog &#8211; <a href="http://chellaney.spaces.live.com/" rel="nofollow">http://chellaney.spaces.live.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think I understand sarcasm, but how would it please the rabid US if Israel were to cease to exist? As I think is the point being made by VCK.

Also, there has been plenty of US bashing in the posts related to the nuclear deal. There is a simplistic creed of bloggers here that US = christianity = domination over hindus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think I understand sarcasm, but how would it please the rabid US if Israel were to cease to exist? As I think is the point being made by VCK.</p>
<p>Also, there has been plenty of US bashing in the posts related to the nuclear deal. There is a simplistic creed of bloggers here that US = christianity = domination over hindus.</p>
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		<title>By: v.c.krishnan</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/03/03/cowards-cannot-build-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-2530</link>
		<dc:creator>v.c.krishnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Shantanu,
At last you got  the point. It was totally &quot;Tongue in cheek&quot;.
Where do you think i got the idea of army service, as in my post to you on Captain Verma.
Regards,
vck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Shantanu,<br />
At last you got  the point. It was totally &#8220;Tongue in cheek&#8221;.<br />
Where do you think i got the idea of army service, as in my post to you on Captain Verma.<br />
Regards,<br />
vck</p>
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