Comments on: The search for a historical “Rama” http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/09/22/search-for-a-historical-shrirama/ Dedicated to "Bharat" and "Dharma" Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:26:50 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: v.c.krishnan http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/09/22/search-for-a-historical-shrirama/comment-page-1/#comment-1755 v.c.krishnan Fri, 09 May 2008 07:26:28 +0000 http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/09/22/search-for-a-historical-shrirama/#comment-1755 Dear Shantanu, Congratulations on providing a forum for reading on my "TRUE HISTORY". Regards, vck Dear Shantanu,
Congratulations on providing a forum for reading on my “TRUE HISTORY”.
Regards,
vck

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]]> By: B Shantanu http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/09/22/search-for-a-historical-shrirama/comment-page-1/#comment-1749 B Shantanu Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:24:40 +0000 http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/09/22/search-for-a-historical-shrirama/#comment-1749 Bharat: Thanks. I will have a look at the links. Bharat: Thanks. I will have a look at the links.

]]> By: Bharat http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/09/22/search-for-a-historical-shrirama/comment-page-1/#comment-1750 Bharat Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:52:41 +0000 http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/09/22/search-for-a-historical-shrirama/#comment-1750 1. Sri Krishna, Saraswati River too were mythologies, that is what we were taught in the schools (from the books of Nehruvian leftist historians). Now scholars, both Bharatiya and western, has accepted the historiocity of Sri Krishna and the existence of Saraswati River. Sri Krishna is a historical personality, so as Sri Ram. As research on Vedic culture, civilization, archeology and ancient sastras progressing fast, it is just a matter of time to exactly pin-point the date and time of Sri Ram.

2. Unless one is completely pervert (like Ram does not exist affidavit type), there is no reason to say so much of historiocity of Sri Ram and his dynasty as mythologies. Lahore (a major city in present day Pakistan) city’s name is after Lavpur (Lav, the son of Sri Ram). Even Pakistanis believe the city was founded by Lav. But for secualrists of Bharat , it is another Hindutva propaganda. Truth is all-power, it unfolds itself. That is why Upanishad boldly declared: Satyameva Jayate nanritam (Truth alone triumphs, not untruth).

3. Today, our enemies are within, not outside. Western countries (colonizers) have no real interest to play with Bharat/India’s history. They did when it was needed. Now it is anti-hindu secular fundamentalist brigades inside Bharat (Congress, Commies, Jihadis, christian missionaries…) are playing the games, to fulfil their own self-interests. Secularists are groups of self-seekers, they had nothing to do with the nation, and its culture and heritage.

4. Following articles might be interesting to understand the time of Sri Rama. We don’t need to agree with the date; it will take sometime to reach to a standard date and time.

Astronomical Dating of the Ramayan By Dr.P.V.Vartak http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/ancient/ramayan/rama_vartak.html
Ref. Dr.P.V.Vartak, Vastav Ramayan in Marathi, Vedvidnyana Mandal, Pune.

Lord Ram was born in 5114 BC
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=273107
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama

There is a book by:
Pushkar Bhatnagar ‘Dating the Era of Lord Ram’ published by Rupa & Co.

And here is a blog.
The historical Rama
http://varnam.org/blog/archives/2007/09/the_historical_rama.php

Of Monkeys, Men, and Cataclysms
http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/science/sc-moff2.htm

Also read.
The Indus Heritage Center will be established (in Gujarat) as a museum and research center and will take people back in time to experience the cities of Dholavira, Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro. Their goal is to build a Smithsonian style museum…

http://varnam.org/blog/archives/2007/11/coming_soon_to_gujarat.php

Indian Americans Spearhead $15M Indus Valley Museum
http://www.indiawest.com/view.php?subaction=showfull&id=1194549345&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1

Enjoy.
Bharat

]]> By: v.c.krishnan http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/09/22/search-for-a-historical-shrirama/comment-page-1/#comment-1752 v.c.krishnan Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:58:21 +0000 http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/09/22/search-for-a-historical-shrirama/#comment-1752 Dear Sir, The moot point that arises to my mind is the significance of the thought process of many who question RAM as a GOD. As per the analysis of Mr. Hari, related to the link provided, he was human and his date of birth has been ascertained as per certain Scientific norms as apprx. 7000 years ago. Please, I am not going into the aspect of Current era or otherwise, as this kind of time perspective is very juvenile in thinking and has no relation to what we are discussing now! Assuming that he was born 7000 years ago then the question arises as to whether he is an incarnation of "GOD" ? I am not going into the question as to question his drinking habits, as by modern times "He needs to be given his space!!! Everything is a belief. Jesus was supposed to be "Son of GOD" and Muhammed the "Interpolator" for GOD's thoughts. It now arises as to whether we are looking at a "GOD" per se or are we looking at the concept of Brahman. These two are are not two sides of a coin. They are entirely different. One is ever existing and the other a concept given to Birth and Death. What are we looking at all! It is very relevant for us to understand that we give our respects to our teachers and Gurus, as you have rightly pointed out. In the same manner it is a matter of belief for us to take cognisance of the fact that "RAM' per se was an embodiment of what our scriptures define as a "MahaPurusha". He is then a part of the "Brahman" and because of him being a "Mahapurusha" we took him to be a benefactor and endowed him with special qualities. I do not know about "GOD" but there is something which keeps all this moving and existing. Call it "GOD" or what you may. My belief in any way has not diminished knowing the Birthday of "LORD RAM". It has only reinforced the fact that the RAMAYANA did happen. at that age and the RAMA SETHU is a man made construction! The question is do you destroy a belief? If it be so for the "SECULAR MEDIA" let that that "MAFIA" also destroy the myths of Jesus and Mohammed and let us face the truth of "Sanatana Dharma" if they are willing to face the challenge! There should not be any challenge to "Da Vinci Code" the "Last temptation of Christ" or the "Cartoons of the Prophet" from the "Seculars". The debate shall continue. Wish you all the best. Regards, vck Dear Sir,
The moot point that arises to my mind is the significance of the thought process of many who question RAM as a GOD.
As per the analysis of Mr. Hari, related to the link provided, he was human and his date of birth has been ascertained as per certain Scientific norms as apprx. 7000 years ago.
Please, I am not going into the aspect of Current era or otherwise, as this kind of time perspective is very juvenile in thinking and has no relation to what we are discussing now!
Assuming that he was born 7000 years ago then the question arises as to whether he is an incarnation of “GOD” ? I am not going into the question as to question his drinking habits, as by modern times “He needs to be given his space!!!
Everything is a belief. Jesus was supposed to be “Son of GOD” and Muhammed the “Interpolator” for GOD’s thoughts.
It now arises as to whether we are looking at a “GOD” per se or are we looking at the concept of Brahman. These two are are not two sides of a coin. They are entirely different. One is ever existing and the other a concept given to Birth and Death.
What are we looking at all! It is very relevant for us to understand that we give our respects to our teachers and Gurus, as you have rightly pointed out.
In the same manner it is a matter of belief for us to take cognisance of the fact that “RAM’ per se was an embodiment of what our scriptures define as a “MahaPurusha”. He is then a part of the “Brahman” and because of him being a “Mahapurusha” we took him to be a benefactor and endowed him with special qualities.
I do not know about “GOD” but there is something which keeps all this moving and existing. Call it “GOD” or what you may.
My belief in any way has not diminished knowing the Birthday of “LORD RAM”. It has only reinforced the fact that the RAMAYANA did happen. at that age and the RAMA SETHU is a man made construction!
The question is do you destroy a belief? If it be so for the “SECULAR MEDIA” let that that “MAFIA” also destroy the myths of Jesus and Mohammed and let us face the truth of “Sanatana Dharma” if they are willing to face the challenge!
There should not be any challenge to “Da Vinci Code” the “Last temptation of Christ” or the “Cartoons of the Prophet” from the “Seculars”.
The debate shall continue. Wish you all the best.
Regards,
vck

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