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		<title>By: संदीप नारायण शेळके</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/07/19/lies-and-half-truths/comment-page-1/#comment-155835</link>
		<dc:creator>संदीप नारायण शेळके</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 12:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah true, we cant expect any news from MSM. But must be followed to learn the history accurately. Even I suspect that if any such evidence occurs govt will stop the research for appeasement.

Jai Bharat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah true, we cant expect any news from MSM. But must be followed to learn the history accurately. Even I suspect that if any such evidence occurs govt will stop the research for appeasement.</p>
<p>Jai Bharat!</p>
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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/07/19/lies-and-half-truths/comment-page-1/#comment-155802</link>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 08:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Sandeep for alerting me to this &quot;news&quot;: http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article1517734.ece
&lt;i&gt;Mr. Gopal and Professor Krishnamurthy said the skulls were of those slain in a massacre. In the past, evidences for massacre and mass burial were found in the country, including those related to the Vijayanagara empire, but nowhere had such a neat arrangement of skulls been reported.

Mr. Gopal said Annigeri boasts a history of more than 1,000 years, and there is a mention of a massacre at Annigeri in an inscription dating to the 12th century.

Professor Krishnamurthy said the skulls were buried just two feet below the top soil, and there were chances of it being a secondary burial. “We are also searching for any mention of a massacre in the local folklore, so that we can relate it to a particular period.”

He said 286 of the skulls were intact, and if the test results were to be unclear, a few of these skulls would be sent again for fresh tests.&lt;/i&gt;
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I will be watching this with interest but I doubt we will hear anything more in the mainstream media</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Sandeep for alerting me to this &#8220;news&#8221;: <a href="http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article1517734.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article1517734.ece</a><br />
<i>Mr. Gopal and Professor Krishnamurthy said the skulls were of those slain in a massacre. In the past, evidences for massacre and mass burial were found in the country, including those related to the Vijayanagara empire, but nowhere had such a neat arrangement of skulls been reported.</p>
<p>Mr. Gopal said Annigeri boasts a history of more than 1,000 years, and there is a mention of a massacre at Annigeri in an inscription dating to the 12th century.</p>
<p>Professor Krishnamurthy said the skulls were buried just two feet below the top soil, and there were chances of it being a secondary burial. “We are also searching for any mention of a massacre in the local folklore, so that we can relate it to a particular period.”</p>
<p>He said 286 of the skulls were intact, and if the test results were to be unclear, a few of these skulls would be sent again for fresh tests.</i><br />
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I will be watching this with interest but I doubt we will hear anything more in the mainstream media</p>
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		<title>By: Aman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shantanu,

2 quick things before I exit this particular discussion. I&#039;d like these to be my last submissions on this particular subject/thread.

(i) You&#039;re right. I do not trust sita ram goel. And I don&#039;t trust bharatvani. bharatvani specially is given to arbitrary &amp; in my personal opinion deliberate misinterpretations to suit &quot;their purpose&quot;.

(ii) And in case that quote is indeed fact, there is a definite need to revaluate the matter in &amp; subsequently revise textbooks across States &amp; the Country, to weed out undesirable matter. There is nothing wrong in that. There is a very definite need for a hawk like watch on this as my link, to the rss school hate preaching textbooks, will have proved to you. We need education, not &quot;prachaar&quot;.
These are school textbooks for God&#039;s sake &amp; it is our responsibility to provide kids an education that leads to them developing an unprejudiced, wholesome World view. If they didn&#039;t watch what they wrote or how they wrote it, we could&#039;ve all grown up hating the British. We all know of their atrocities, but we also knew that they were conquerers &amp; rulers as ruthless as any other, but also about their few good deeds. I&#039;m surely happy that I&#039;ve grown up not hating the British as a race, or the Christians or the Muslims. I thank God for the kind of textbooks I had &amp; for the kind of teachers I had.
It would&#039;ve been very easy to poison my mind if I read a warped view of history or if I had twisted teachers.
So while I&#039;m thankful, I also pity those children who were not given a chance to have an unprejudiced, wholesome World view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantanu,</p>
<p>2 quick things before I exit this particular discussion. I&#8217;d like these to be my last submissions on this particular subject/thread.</p>
<p>(i) You&#8217;re right. I do not trust sita ram goel. And I don&#8217;t trust bharatvani. bharatvani specially is given to arbitrary &amp; in my personal opinion deliberate misinterpretations to suit &#8220;their purpose&#8221;.</p>
<p>(ii) And in case that quote is indeed fact, there is a definite need to revaluate the matter in &amp; subsequently revise textbooks across States &amp; the Country, to weed out undesirable matter. There is nothing wrong in that. There is a very definite need for a hawk like watch on this as my link, to the rss school hate preaching textbooks, will have proved to you. We need education, not &#8220;prachaar&#8221;.<br />
These are school textbooks for God&#8217;s sake &amp; it is our responsibility to provide kids an education that leads to them developing an unprejudiced, wholesome World view. If they didn&#8217;t watch what they wrote or how they wrote it, we could&#8217;ve all grown up hating the British. We all know of their atrocities, but we also knew that they were conquerers &amp; rulers as ruthless as any other, but also about their few good deeds. I&#8217;m surely happy that I&#8217;ve grown up not hating the British as a race, or the Christians or the Muslims. I thank God for the kind of textbooks I had &amp; for the kind of teachers I had.<br />
It would&#8217;ve been very easy to poison my mind if I read a warped view of history or if I had twisted teachers.<br />
So while I&#8217;m thankful, I also pity those children who were not given a chance to have an unprejudiced, wholesome World view.</p>
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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is in response to a comment by Aman.
&lt;strong&gt;
*** Comment by Aman *** &lt;/strong&gt;

At this point you are merely countering me. You are not providing me with the proof I seek. Give me the NCERT link that I am asking for. Anything else is just diversionary tactics.

I’ll wait for the NCERT link/reliable source link. I have an open mind. Give me a reliable link.
&lt;strong&gt;
*** My response *** &lt;/strong&gt;

Since you don&#039;t &quot;trust&quot; Bharatvani, are you implying that Sh Sita Ram Goel is lying when he wrote the following (from this site http://www.bharatvani.org/books/siii/ch1.htm)?
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Mrs. Coomi Kapoor has given a summary of the guidelines prepared by the National Council of Educational Research and Training (NCERT) in the Indian Express date-lined New Delhi, January 17, 1982.  She writes:&lt;i&gt;“History and Language textbooks for schools all over India will soon be revised radically. In collaboration with various state governments the Ministry of Education has begun a phased programme to weed out undesirable textbooks and remove matter which is prejudicial to national integration and unity and which does not promote social cohesion. The Ministry of Education’s decision to re-evaluate textbooks was taken in the light of the recommendations of the National Integration Council of which the Prime Minister is Chairman. The Ministry’s view was that history had often been used to serve narrow sectarian and chauvinistic ends&lt;/i&gt;.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

And you want me to provide further proof?! Why dont you simply say you dont trust me, you dont trust Sh Goel and that we are making this up as we go along?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is in response to a comment by Aman.<br />
<strong><br />
*** Comment by Aman *** </strong></p>
<p>At this point you are merely countering me. You are not providing me with the proof I seek. Give me the NCERT link that I am asking for. Anything else is just diversionary tactics.</p>
<p>I’ll wait for the NCERT link/reliable source link. I have an open mind. Give me a reliable link.<br />
<strong><br />
*** My response *** </strong></p>
<p>Since you don&#8217;t &#8220;trust&#8221; Bharatvani, are you implying that Sh Sita Ram Goel is lying when he wrote the following (from this site <a href="http://www.bharatvani.org/books/siii/ch1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bharatvani.org/books/siii/ch1.htm</a>)?</p>
<blockquote><p>
Mrs. Coomi Kapoor has given a summary of the guidelines prepared by the National Council of Educational Research and Training (NCERT) in the Indian Express date-lined New Delhi, January 17, 1982.  She writes:<i>“History and Language textbooks for schools all over India will soon be revised radically. In collaboration with various state governments the Ministry of Education has begun a phased programme to weed out undesirable textbooks and remove matter which is prejudicial to national integration and unity and which does not promote social cohesion. The Ministry of Education’s decision to re-evaluate textbooks was taken in the light of the recommendations of the National Integration Council of which the Prime Minister is Chairman. The Ministry’s view was that history had often been used to serve narrow sectarian and chauvinistic ends</i>.” </p></blockquote>
<p>And you want me to provide further proof?! Why dont you simply say you dont trust me, you dont trust Sh Goel and that we are making this up as we go along?!</p>
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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
		<link>http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/07/19/lies-and-half-truths/comment-page-1/#comment-33508</link>
		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Akshar...but praise must really be reserved for Sh Sita Ram Goel and Sh Shourie. 

I am merely the messenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Akshar&#8230;but praise must really be reserved for Sh Sita Ram Goel and Sh Shourie. </p>
<p>I am merely the messenger.</p>
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