MUST WATCH: Dr Zakir Naik and “2+2=4” or is it?

This is a MUST WATCH YouTube clip. (Alternative link)

I was first alerted to it by fellow blogger, HawkEyeIndia’s post: “Dr Zakir Naik’s Jawdropping Logic: 2+2=4 or Is It?” (link updated as the original one was broken)

I would even go as far as saying that if there was only one post you could read this week, it needs to be this one.

A link to another video of Dr Zakir Naik’s statement(s) – and one more here.

Unbelievably, the guy is an Indian citizen.

UPDATE (Feb ’08): Link fixed

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UPDATE: See also excerpts from Sadia Dehlvi’s article in this comment (original article here).

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43 Responses

  1. sushil says:

    want to know

  2. Sometimes ago I think I read (perhaps on this very blog ) that this “2+2” Zakir is also encouraging the muslim youth for military training ! This needs investigation…

  3. B Shantanu says:

    Jagmohan:
    I have not come across that…but if someone has a link, please email me or comment here.

    Thanks.

  4. Here the great faithful let us know why it is right to kill us infidels : http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina51022.htm
    …by the way, there is another chapter in faithfreedom.org ( I am yet to find the exact link there) which shows the transcript of two muslim chatters referring to a terrorist training camp in ( or near ) Mumbai, connected with Zakir Naik !

  5. B Shantanu says:

    Jagmohan: Thanks, I will have a look…Also pl. post the other link whenever you find it.

  6. Mr. Shantanu, did you hear about the recent crises in Punjab over “Saccha Sauda Dera”, a new-age superficial ‘secularist’ cult whose self-styled CEO adorns his name with an intellectually disgusting “Ram-Rahim” hint.

    He angered the Sikhs ( “fundamentalist sikhs”, as our secularist media has started calling them ) by mocking the Khalsa Amrit ceremony…

    What is your point of view ?

  7. B Shantanu says:

    Jagmohan,

    I did hear about this but I have not had the chance to read through the issue in any great detail.

    Having said that, I cannot begin to feel respect towards any cult that *mocks* others religious practices and beliefs.

  8. Saleem Sheikh says:

    Saleem Sheikh

    First of all we have to find turth faith , then we passed our comments . I think Dr Zakir Naik have an all answers of ur all question with reference from ur religions books like Veds and Bible. please read with understanding ur religion books and i am sure u find out correct religions Islaam.

  9. Indian says:

    Common Saleem Sheikh,

    Its time for you to review, reread, and edit your Quran. I have great respect for many Islamic scholars but Zakir Niak to me seems like Cartoon with limited understanding of Human beings and lacking respect for other religion.

  10. Saleem Sheikh is an apt example of the control the hate-fountains like Zakir Naik have developed upon the “common muslim”….Mr Shantanu, is it still the time for being politically correct and let people like this Saleem go on living in the fool’s paradise, until one fine day they end-up by destroying our country ?

  11. B Shantanu says:

    All the comments to this post from the last few days have been moved to a new post.

    Please join the discussion here:
    https://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/07/08/discussion-on-hindutva-islam-zakir-naik-godhra/

  12. reven says:

    Sorry brother ‘Indian’, it is impossible to change Quran. It is so authentic that from the moment it was revealed, it hasn’t changed nor anyone has the power to change it. It is a gift from Allah to humanity. Some people say that it is written by Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh). It is completely illogical to say it is written by the great holy prophet because he was earthly illetrate. All of his knowledge had come from the divine source which is from Allah.

  13. great indian says:

    first of all every one should understand that any religion should be based on science and logic, islam is the only logical religion . All other religions r based on miricals and superstition, and some others are totally illogical, based on fairy tales, hence they are called mythical, there is no science in their religion. Dr. Zakir has proved with evidence that islam is the perfect religion, if any one wants to know more then u r free to debate

  14. B Shantanu says:

    great indian: “logical religion” feels like an oxymoron…that aside, my fundamental problem with your comment is that it leaves no room for choice and/or free will.

    By the way, ever heard of a word called “faith” and how about “belief”? 🙂

    You may also find this post interesting: https://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/04/06/comment-on-religion-without-truth/

  15. Ram says:

    To great indian:
    What utter nonsense?
    How do you claim that Islam is a scientific and logical religion?

    Christianity and Hinduism are not based on miracles. Each of these lay out a path before you to reach God.

    Some saints in the above religions might have performed miracles.

    Don’t you remember Arthur C. Clarke’s saying – “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”?

    Science and Religion will unite. And that’s the golden age.

    -Ram Sundar

  16. great indian says:

    *** Comment Combined ***

    to ram
    you say that hinduism is not base on miracles, then i think that u dont know the fundamentals of your religion. please go through the tv shows and cartoons which depict the religion, ….well the kids really enjoy the graphics, the 10 faced beast was some creation, …..there are enless such creatures,,, i dont want to ashame u

    and who are saints? has god created something special ? remember every major religion’s basic says that every man on earth has been created equal, it is because of mans stupid belief created such so called saints. try finding a saint in this modern world!!!!!!!

  17. B Shantanu says:

    great indian: “please go through the tv shows and cartoons which depict the religion…”

    You cannot be serious!

    Pl. “grow up” and try to read/learn a little bit more before you start forming an opinion.

  18. Indian says:

    *** Comment Combined ***

    Hey great Indina

    You small little Indian cannot make us ashame, we are more powerful than any other religion on this earth. keep your opinion to yourself.

    Dont you see english or hollywood movies. Dont you think they are taking hinduism ideas in movies by showing aliens and other creatures talking and thinking. What we have Krishna they have superman or bat man.

    Islam is not a religion but only a political agenda.

  19. great indian says:

    hey guys dont get excited, but you will have to believe the fact. you just cannot claim any thing without proof. and pls dont compare your god with batman or spiderman, u are insulting your own religion.

  20. Ram says:

    To great indian’s comment: “has god created something special ? remember every major religion’s basic says that every man on earth has been created equal”

    If this is the case, why was the Quran revealed only to the Prophet? Isn’t He special in this case? If your answer is “yes”, please apply the same “logic” to Islam too.

    And yes, if there are lambs with 7 legs (http://www.boston.com/news/odd/articles/2007/08/02/lamb_born_with_7_legs_in_new_zealand/),
    there can be men with 10 heads too, ha!
    – Ram Sundar

  21. Harry Potter says:

    To Great Indian: Some stories have an allegorical basis and you should read them as such and just try and understand the moral of the story (though that means you need a basic level of understanding and average IQ).
    Moreover, if you are going to use TV and cartoons as your basis for judging a religion, your comments do not honestly deserve a response! Take your diatribe elsewhere. Peace!!

  22. Indian says:

    Common now, we know how to respect our religion and we are doing the best. First stop maligning others belief and religion, when you don’t have enough knowledge. After all World is surviving basically on hinduism. Hinduism is well proofed and protected. I needs no further proof. If Imagined batman and superman can facinates todays world, but in olden times this kind of spirit and power were existed which can shake the mountains and oceans. What you think impossible today was already existed before hand in hinduism.

    Today’s technology is all described in puranas and stories. One needs open mind to discuss and think about it. Rest it is useless to debate and discuss.

  23. great indian says:

    ok i understand u just cant resist believing all those imaginary stories, so i think u people should stop learning science and technology. keep up the good work by just praising and pamparing, serving food to it, bathing it with precious milk, some thing which is non living. there is lot more to prove your belief is full of superstition, i no time to explain all this to just a few

  24. B Shantanu says:

    great indian: I am not going to respond anymore to your juvenile comments.

    If you want a serious debate, I suggest you read up a little bit before expressing your views.

    Another good start might be to think about what I wrote in comment #14 above.

    ***

    All: I normally would not do this but I’m requesting all of you to stop further comments on this post.

    A major reason is that the original video to which this post referred to is no longer on the net 🙁

    Everyone who wishes to discuss the finer points of Islam, Hinduism and other religions, pl. join the debate here (which is a more appropriate thread for the discussion):

    https://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/07/08/discussion-on-hindutva-islam-zakir-naik-godhra/

    Thanks.

  25. Moderator says:

    *** ALL COMMENTS COMBINED HERE ***

    ************

    great indian
    the answer to your misconseption are on the link which u have given (zakir naik) besides these go thru his other debates which i think can clear ur mind

    ***
    Ram Sundar
    To great indian, who says – �so i think u people should stop learning science and technology�

    -Huh??

    It�s Hinduism that gave the world the wonderful science of metallurgy, astrology (which seems to be a non-secular science, since Hindu�s invented it ) and so on.

    Have you ever seen an Hindu almanac missing a predicted eclipse?

    For concepts on Politics, Governance, Art of war – Please read the Mahabarata.

    While folks in the west caught and ate rats and lived in caves, Hindus were in the height of their civilization.

    So, great indian, get your facts first before typing out anything.

    And, great indian, have you wondered why Islam prohibits charging/ receiving interest on loan money – simple,the _______ (guess who?) did not know how to do math.

    Sorry Shantanu, despite your request to end the discussion in this page, I had to type this out.

    – Ram Sundar

    ***
    great indianlike i said earlier pls refer to the link given by ur friend, and u will have all the answers, but i think u will not refer to that link because u r afraid of being exposed with the truth, i am thank full to b shantanu to give the link of Zakir naik, and i am sure u dont have any such debates to prove ur foolish comments

    ***
    Last Word by B Shantanu (I�m exercising my right as the owner of this blog)

    @ great indian: 1. The link above does NOT work. You obviously did not click it 2. I am not interested in what Dr Zakir Naik says or does not say 3. Pl. stick to the topic at hand while commenting on this blog.

    @ Ram Sundar: I am shortly going to post something on Hindu/Indian achievements in Science and Technology although there is material in the archives here too (pl. see Categories).

    Thanks everyone for the comments.

    ************

    Comments on this post are now closed.

    ***

    UPDATE: Post re-opened for Comments (19th March ’09)

  26. ME says:

    FOR RAM SUNDAR
    “have you wondered why Islam prohibits charging/ receiving interest on loan money – simple,the _______ (guess who?) did not know how to do math.”

    FOR UR KIND INFORMATION IT WAS ARAB WORLD WHICH LAID DOWN THE FOUNDATION OF MATHS ; SO PLZ UPDATE UR HISTORY & REGARDING INTEREST IT IS PROHIBITED BECOZ ONE MAKES EFFORTLESS PROFIT IN IT

  27. K. Harapriya says:

    This Naik is amazing. I can prove 2+2=4. We can prove scientific theories. Can anyone prove Allah exists? Or that the Koran is the word of God? or that Mohammed heard the voice of God or Gabriel etc. People who think that their religious beliefs are scientific had better come up with the proofs quickly.

    And here we see the problem with religion based education (read madarasa). People apparently don’t understand what a scientific experiement is.

    In fact the most “scientific” religions would be based not on revelation but realization because it is accessible to anyone who practices it. Thus, as far as religious experiences go, meditation and the subsquent spiritual experience is accessible to all those who practice it. But even this is hardly a science. The science only comes into play in studies like meditation lowering your blood pressure or some such physcial effect.

    What we see in these videos is blatant religious intolerance. What we as Hindus need to do is to actually get the message of the Bhagavad Gita (in a way that Gandhi never did). We should never tolerate those who are intolerant of us.

  28. K. Harapriya says:

    The fundamental problem of Western monotheistic religions is that they define God very narrowly and thus their definition itself is flawed and cannot reveal an infallible intelligent being which we call God.

    All Western monotheistic religions share certain core assumptions about the nature of God and man which then form their world view. These can be ennumerated as follows.

    1. God is known only through a revelation made to one person or a group of people.

    2. God is a being with or without a physical body–but definitely with human emotions such as jealousy, anger, compassion, love, forgiveness and the desire to be admired, worshipped etc. and is prone to exercising these in response to human behaviour.

    3. God requires constant allegiance and expressions of allegiance from the believers and determines the eternal life of individuals based on this one factor alone.

    4. God has revealed His word through a prophet , and His word is inerrant.

    5. There is an afterlife only reserved for humans.

    6. There is a devil–an embodiment of evil which exists in the world. This evil is separate from the individual and can tempt an individual.

    7. God is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent etc. yet there is a heaven where He resides.

    8. Heaven and Hell exist as permanent resting places of souls based on the beliefs that people held in their short lives.

    While polytheistic, pantheistic and monistic religions might share a few of these beliefs, they generally don’t hold all of these beliefs nor do they claim that they are immutable .

    Problems of defining God so narrowly

    In examining each of these beliefs of monotheism, we can understand the magnitude of the problem. If God is merely a revelation to a specific group of people at a specific time in history, then to the vast majority of mankind, He remains a mystery that has to be explained by the believers. So at the outset, God, in spite of being the creator of the entire universe decides to favor only the few or the one to give a revelation. To the rest, he is only known through second-hand means —through the accounts of the believers. So right from the start, this great and wonderful being, this omniscient, omnipresent being is only to be believed in–He becomes a matter of faith as opposed to a matter of knowledge.

    Secondly, a creator God with human emotions is fundamentally problematic. The existence of an incarnation (I.e. a god come down to earth) with human emotions is not the problem–after all he is human. However the non-incarnated divine being having human emotions which are irrationally in favor of those who believe in it is a problem. How can I believe in a god that constantly seeks to condemn every action of mine based on a belief I a may or may not hold. Why would the creator of the universe be so insecure as to require my belief–shouldn’t my believing or not believing be totally irrelevant to him/it?

    Another problem with having a concept of God who requires constant allegiance and constant expression of allegiance through prayer etc. is to reduce the concept of God to another egotistical maniac with massive insecurities.

    Religions which are based solely on revelations instead of realizations, have an additional problem. The problem lies in the revelation themselves. If these are the exact words of God, then they cannot be changed or even drastically reinterpreted. By choosing to believe that God wants to reveal himself to people (this itself is a funny belief–why should the creator of the Universe want to really reveal Himself to a single species on a planet which is part of an insignificant solar system?), and especially the idea that he has “chosen” a specific group for this revelation who then need to spread the word by whatever means possible seems to suggest that the perfect God of these revelations condones violence in His name. Within the Koran we again find numerous exhortations to violence against the non-believers. Now when these passages are quoted to point out the violent nature of the religious ideology, there is the charge of selectively quoting these passages. Now one cannot have it both ways–either the book is the inerrant word of God or it isn’t. And if passages contradict each other within a single text, we can either conclude God was confused or that these texts are not the inerrant word of God.

    By defining God in such narrow terms, we find that these religious ideologies can only have the impact they have had in the past–slowly destroying the religious mosaic of the world and contributing to cultural genocide across the globe.

  29. KSV SUBRAMANIAN says:

    @Harapriya: God is the creator of everything. Then why he should create evil people? Then why he should create nob-believers? He is powerful. Then why he require the ordinary mortals to protect him, propagate his name and revelations, and kill the nob-believers? Why not he himself kill the non-believers or at least do not create these kind of people? Some say that man is born a sinner and only on performing certain ….. he can be absolved from such a sin. Really confusing.

  30. B Shantanu says:

    Thought-provoking comment Harapriya. Thanks

  31. K. Harapriya says:

    @KSV. Perhaps the confusion lies in how God is defined. The question really is not why or how God does something, but rather–what is God?
    One of the central themes of Vedanta is addressing the question of What is God.

    According to it God is not an object external to you that can be perceived by you. God is that which allows the subject (i.e you) to perceive. Thus if may be that the awareness of God is based not on explanation but purely by experiencing it. It is like explaining the scent of jasmine to a person who hasn’t ever seen a jasmine. Those who have smelt it know what it is, and those who don’t can’t really understand.

  32. Simple_Man says:

    Deal all brothers
    happened to read ur comments adn thought i would write something here

    God—
    Hinduism and vedas define as He is one and there is no other 2nd god except one god and the one who potrays god in image for has gone astray

    So it is strong enough to say that Hindus themselves forgot thier own religion and by centuries ,they started following all that comes to them and worship eveything they want.
    so regarding God Hindu Brothers dont have any idea and its illogical for a man to accuse the other who is following his priciples of god since the book is revealed(the Qur’an is as it is it was revealed)
    centuries passed and you cant find a single muslim saying there is substitute to God,
    We Muslims are very clear on our principles and we request our Hindu brothers to revise you own vedas and follow as it is atleast in the theory of one God

    HERE IS THE HINDU BOOKS AND THIER SCRIPTS WHICH CLEARLY SAYS GOD AS ONE,A HINDU CAN BE GOOD HINDU ONLY WHEN HE FOLLOWS THE BASIC PRICIPLE OF THIER OWN BOOK ,SO I KINDLY ASK YOU BE A GOOD HINDU AND COME TO THE COMMON TERMS AS BETWEEN YOU AND US
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    UPANISHAD:

    Upanishads are one of the sacred Scriptures of the Hindus.

    i. Chandogya Upanishad Chapter 6 Section 2 verse 1

    It is mentioned in the Chandogya Upanishad:

    “Ekam Evadvitiyam”

    “He is one only without a second.”

    (Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1)

    (The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan pg. 447 & 448)

    (Sacred Books of the East Volume 1, the Upanishads Part I Page 93)

    ii. Shwetashvatara Upanishad Chapter 6 verse 9

    It is mentioned in the Shwetashvatara Upanishad

    “Nacasya kascij janita na cadhipah”

    “Of Him there are neither parents nor Lord.”

    (Shwetashvatara Upanishad 6:9)

    (The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan pg. 745)

    (and in Sacred books of the East volume 15, the Upanishads Part II Page 263)

    iii. Shwetashvatara Upanishad Chapter 4 verse 19

    It is mentioned in Shwetashvatara Upanishad

    “Na tasya pratima asti ”

    “There is no likeness of Him”.

    (Shwetashvatara Upanishad 4:19)

    (The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan pg 736 & 737 )

    (and in Sacred books of the East Volume 15, the Upanishads part II, Page no. 253)

    iv. Shwetashvatara Upanishad Chapter 4 verse 20

    It is mentioned in Shwetashvatara Upanishad

    “na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam”.

    “His form cannot be seen, no one sees Him with the eye”.

    (Shwetashvatara Upanishad 4:20)

    (The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan pg. 737)

    (And in Sacred books of the East Volume 15, the Upanishad part II, Page no. 253)

    BHAGWAD GEETA 7:20

    The most popular amongst all the Hindu Scriptures is the Bhagwad Geeta.

    Bhagwad Geeta mentions

    “Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires worship demigods” that is “Those who are materialistic, they worship demigods” i.e. others as deities besides the True God.

    (Bhagwad Geeta 7:20)

    It is mentioned in Bhagavad Gita

    “He who knows Me as the unborn, as the beginning-less, as the Supreme Lord of all the worlds…”

    (Bhagwad Geeta 10:3)

    YAJURVEDA

    Vedas are the most sacred amongst all the Hindu Scriptures. There are principally 4 Vedas: Rig Ved, Yajur Ved, Sam Ved, and Atharva Ved.

    i. Yajurveda Chapter 32, Verse 3

    It is mentioned in Yajurveda

    “na tasya pratima asti ”

    “There is no image of Him”

    It further says, “as He is unborn, He deserves our worship”.

    (Yajurveda 32:3)

    (The Yajurveda by Devi Chand M.A. pg. 377)

    ii. Yajurveda Chapter 40 Verse 8

    It is mentioned in Yajurveda Chapter 40 verse 8

    “He is bodiless and pure”.

    (Yajurveda 40:8)

    (Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph I. H. Griffith pg. 538)

    iii. Yajurved Chapter 40 Verse 9

    It is mentioned in Yajurved

    “Andhatma pravishanti ye assambhuti mupaste”

    “They enter darkness, those who worship natural things.”

    E.g. worship of natural elements air, water, fire, etc.

    (Yajurveda 40:9)

    It further continues and says

    “They sink deeper in darkness those who worship sambhuti i.e. created things”

    E.g. created things such as table, chair, idols, etc.

    (Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Griffith pg. 538)

    ATHARVA VEDA

    i. Atharva Veda book 20 hymn (chapter) 58 verse 3

    It is mentioned in Atharva Veda

    “Dev Maha Osi”

    “God is Verily Great.”

    (Atharva Veda 20:58:3)

    (Atharvaveda Samhita Vol. 2, William Duright Whitney pg. 910)

    RIGVEDA

    The oldest and most sacred amongst all the Vedas is the Rigveda.

    i. Rigveda Book no. 1, Hymn No. 164, verse 46

    It is mentioned in Rigveda Book no. 1, hymn No. 164 verse 46

    “Ekam sat vipra bahudha vadanti”

    “Sages (learned Priests) call one God by many names”.

    (Rigveda 1:164:46)

    Truth is one, God is one, sages call it by various names.

    A similar message is given in Rigveda, Book 10, hymn 114, verse 5.

    ii. Rigveda Book 2 hymn 1

    Rigveda gives no less than 33 different attributes to Almighty God. Several of these attributes are mentioned in Rigveda Book 2 hymn 1

    a. Brahma – Creator – Khaliq – Rigveda Book 2 Hymn 1 Verse 3

    Amongst the various attributes given in Rigveda, one of the beautiful attributes for Almighty God is ‘Brahma’. ‘Brahma’ means ‘the Creator’. If you translate into Arabic it means ‘Khaliq’. Islam does not object to anyone calling Almighty God as ‘Khaliq’ or ‘Creator’ or ‘Brahma’, but if someone says that ‘Brahma’ i.e. Almighty God has got four heads and on each head is a crown and this Brahma has got four hands, Islam takes strong exception to it because such descriptions give an image to Almighty God. Such descriptions are also against what is propounded in Yajurveda Chapter 32, verse 3 which says:

    “Na tasya pratima asti ”

    “There is no image of Him”.

    (Yajurveda 32:3)

    b. Vishnu – Sustainer – Rabb : Rigveda Book 2, Hymn 1, verse 3

    Another beautiful attribute mentioned in the Rigveda Book 2, Hymn 1, Verse 3 is Vishnu. ‘Vishnu’ means ‘the Sustainer’. If you translate this word into Arabic it means ‘Rabb’. Islam has no objection if anyone calls Almighty God as ‘Rabb’ or ‘Sustainer’ or ‘Vishnu’, but if someone says that Vishnu is Almighty God and this Vishnu has four arms, one of the right arms holds the ‘chakra’ i.e. a discus and one of the left arms holds a ‘conch shell’ and Vishnu rides on a bird or reclines on a snake couch, then Islam takes strong exception to this, because such descriptions of Vishnu give an image to Almighty God. Such descriptions are also against what is taught in Yajurveda Chapter 40 verse 8.

    iii. Rigveda Book 8 hymn 1 verse 1

    It is mentioned in Rigveda

    “Ma Chidanyadvi Shansata”

    “Do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine One, Praise Him alone”

    (Rigveda 8:1:1)

    (Rigveda Samhiti Vol. IX, pg. 1 & 2 by Swami Satyaprakash Sarasvati & Satyakam Vidhya Lankar)

    iv. Rigveda Book 5 Hymn 81 verse 1

    It is mentioned in Rigveda

    “Verily great is the glory of the Divine Creator”

    (Rigveda 5:81:1)

    (Rigveda Samhiti Vol. 6, pg 1802 & 1803 by Swami Satyaprakash Sarasvati & Satyakam Vidhya Lanka)

    v. Rigveda Book no. VI, Hymn 45, verse 16

    It is mentioned in Rigveda

    “Ya Eka Ittamushtuhi”

    “Praise Him who is the matchless & alone”.

    (Rigveda 6:45:16)

    (Hymns of Rigveda by Ralph T. H. Griffith pg. 648)

    BRAHMA SUTRA OF HINDU VEDANTA

    The Brahma Sutra of Hindu Vedanta is:

    ‘Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan”

    “Bhagwan ek hi hai dusara nahi hai, nahi hai, nahi hai, zara bhi nahi hai”.

    “There is only one God, not the second, not at all, not at all, not in the least bit”.

    All the above quoted verses and passages from Hindu Scriptures clearly amplify the Oneness and Uniqueness of Almighty God, the Creator of all. Furthermore, they negate the existence of any other deity besides the One True God. These verses essentially propound monotheism.

    Therefore only if one carefully studies the Hindu Scriptures, will one understand and realize the correct concept of God in Hinduism.

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  33. Amit says:

    I really felt very sad..looking at a video where he humiliates our Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. I found an interesting blog regarding that holylier.blogspot.com

  34. Vishwa says:

    The problem with people like Zakir Naik is 2+2=4, ok but they cannot accept 4=0+4 , 4=1+3, 4=2+2, 4=5-1, and so on… it has infinite combinations. Of course it is a different question “if they are saying that 2+2=4??”

  35. Sid says:

    Shantanu,
    Did you see those lovely comments on the site that you linked? I did not know that so many lovers of freedom of speech existed among the followers of religion of peace. If, only freedom of speech, was granted in the manual of cultural imperialism written in Arabic.

  36. B Shantanu says:

    I had not noticed the comments Sid…thanks!

  37. Thanks for this link Shantanu. Don’t think banning this guy is a solution though. He needs to see a psychiatrist.

  38. Indian says:

    I agree Zakir Niak must see psychiatrist but before that his follower who understand and support him also must see the doctor. There is something called body language, behavior, speech that can easly display what the person is all about. How can one fall into the trap of mentally ill person? I see the point of Ali Sina of faith freedom, they stop developing after some age( 10 or 12). Very True Ali! I see your point now!

  39. sourav says:

    By banning his entry into the UK, u only end up giving him more publicity. It is very important to make sure that his ideas and views on comparative religion, which is almost always based on sophism, comes a cropper. In this regard, the agniveer has been doing a great job. I am posting the link to his website.
    http://agniveer.com/

  40. Indian says:

    @Sourav

    Liked the link!.

  41. Manas says:

    1. The comment by “Simple_Man (author)” is a blatant copy-paste of Zakir Naik’s material that is used by Muslims in various Internet forums. To answer him all I will say is that Hindu Dharma is not one-dimensional. The philosophy of inclusiveness allows for a whole tapestry of traditions, practices, views, etc. (some even contrary to others) to peacefully co-exist. It is however understandable when when people imbibed in the fascist ethos of totalitarian, supremacist “my-way-or-the-highway” creeds fail to relate to how a belief system can allow for a whole tapestry of viewpoints, practices, traditions, etc. to peacefully coexist.

    2. Zakir Naik has recently been banned from entering the UK by the British govt. for being a hate mongering fanatical extremist preacher. Interestingly, he has found support from filmmaker Mahesh Bhatt in his protest against the ban. Mr. Bhatt’s abutment for Mr. Naik should however hardly come as a surprise to anyone.