Comments on: “Hindu”, India and “Bharat” – The Story behind Word Origins http://satyameva-jayate.org/2006/05/27/hindu-india-and-bharat-word-origins/ Dedicated to "Bharat" and "Dharma" Sat, 25 May 2013 12:04:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Dr. K.K. Bonia http://satyameva-jayate.org/2006/05/27/hindu-india-and-bharat-word-origins/comment-page-2/#comment-819145 Dr. K.K. Bonia Tue, 01 Jan 2013 13:49:58 +0000 https://hindudharma.wordpress.com/2006/05/27/%e2%80%9chindu%e2%80%9d-india-and-%e2%80%9cbharat%e2%80%9d-the-story-behind-word-origins/#comment-819145 Dear Ram Chellaram you had put some answer of your quotations on dated 10th July, 2012 which were: question is what part did Mohenjo Daro and Harrapa civilization affect Hinduism or how Hinduism affect these civilizations? Please give me some references to go bye. How did Sindh became 90% Muslim population? I came into conclusion that you are lack knowledge about history about Hindustan or Bharat's (as don't say India ) civilization i.e Indus Valley civilization and other civilization and genesis of these concerned to your quotations which is well explained history and also in social studies, the Competition Success, etc.Answer of your last question might be that entrance of Muslims and muslim rulers into different parts of Bharat starting from Sindh.Excepting best muslim rulers, due due to supremacy Muslims over hindus and barbarism most of the Hindu population forced to converted to muslim and due to this Sindh become 90% Muslim or more population. You should go through Nehru's book "Glymps of History..".Don't mind please.Jai Bharat mata. Dr. K.K.Bonia, Professor, Guwahati,Assam Dear Ram Chellaram you had put some answer of your quotations on dated 10th July, 2012 which were: question is what part did Mohenjo Daro and Harrapa civilization affect Hinduism or how Hinduism affect these civilizations?
Please give me some references to go bye.
How did Sindh became 90% Muslim population?

I came into conclusion that you are lack knowledge about history about Hindustan or Bharat’s (as don’t say India ) civilization i.e Indus Valley civilization and other civilization and genesis of these concerned to your quotations which is well explained history and also in social studies, the Competition Success, etc.Answer of your last question might be that entrance of Muslims and muslim rulers into different parts of Bharat starting from Sindh.Excepting best muslim rulers, due due to supremacy Muslims over hindus and barbarism most of the Hindu population forced to converted to muslim and due to this Sindh become 90% Muslim or more population. You should go through Nehru’s book “Glymps of History..”.Don’t mind please.Jai Bharat mata.
Dr. K.K.Bonia, Professor, Guwahati,Assam

]]> By: Bhupi Singh http://satyameva-jayate.org/2006/05/27/hindu-india-and-bharat-word-origins/comment-page-2/#comment-528701 Bhupi Singh Fri, 14 Sep 2012 02:43:24 +0000 https://hindudharma.wordpress.com/2006/05/27/%e2%80%9chindu%e2%80%9d-india-and-%e2%80%9cbharat%e2%80%9d-the-story-behind-word-origins/#comment-528701 Excellent article by Mr B Shantanu, and very informative thread thereafter. Over the years, I have come across fair bit of research and discussion on the origins of the words Bharat, Indus, and Hindu etc. There is now almost universal agreement on what Shantanu has stated in his article. However, such "conclusions" are not very well known outside the domain of historians, and misconceptiosn still abound. Mr Shanatnu has done a great service by bringiong these views out. His article is very informative, and is seemingly authentic (if such a term can be applied to something from such antiquity). Thanks Mr Shantanu, and all the others who participated in this thread, for the illuminatiing discussion. While on the subject, I am looking for a FORUM where ancient history of the indian subcontinent is discussed. any help would be much appreciated. Regards all, and Jai Bharat. Dr Bhupi Singh Adelaide Australia Excellent article by Mr B Shantanu, and very informative thread thereafter. Over the years, I have come across fair bit of research and discussion on the origins of the words Bharat, Indus, and Hindu etc. There is now almost universal agreement on what Shantanu has stated in his article. However, such “conclusions” are not very well known outside the domain of historians, and misconceptiosn still abound. Mr Shanatnu has done a great service by bringiong these views out. His article is very informative, and is seemingly authentic (if such a term can be applied to something from such antiquity).

Thanks Mr Shantanu, and all the others who participated in this thread, for the illuminatiing discussion.

While on the subject, I am looking for a FORUM where ancient history of the indian subcontinent is discussed. any help would be much appreciated.

Regards all, and Jai Bharat.

Dr Bhupi Singh
Adelaide
Australia

]]> By: Virendra http://satyameva-jayate.org/2006/05/27/hindu-india-and-bharat-word-origins/comment-page-2/#comment-514643 Virendra Sun, 02 Sep 2012 15:08:58 +0000 https://hindudharma.wordpress.com/2006/05/27/%e2%80%9chindu%e2%80%9d-india-and-%e2%80%9cbharat%e2%80%9d-the-story-behind-word-origins/#comment-514643 Shantanu Ji, It is our lefty historian's line to say that when invaders like Arabs came in and saw Sindhu, they called it Hindu and the people around it as Hindu people. Hindu is much ancient than that. Although one cannot deny that at some time point of time even Sindhu's corruption to Hindu may also have been a case. But it certainly goes many centuries before common era. Regards, Virendra Shantanu Ji,

It is our lefty historian’s line to say that when invaders like Arabs came in and saw Sindhu, they called it Hindu and the people around it as Hindu people.
Hindu is much ancient than that. Although one cannot deny that at some time point of time even Sindhu’s corruption to Hindu may also have been a case.
But it certainly goes many centuries before common era.

Regards,
Virendra

]]> By: Madhu http://satyameva-jayate.org/2006/05/27/hindu-india-and-bharat-word-origins/comment-page-2/#comment-514595 Madhu Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:53:41 +0000 https://hindudharma.wordpress.com/2006/05/27/%e2%80%9chindu%e2%80%9d-india-and-%e2%80%9cbharat%e2%80%9d-the-story-behind-word-origins/#comment-514595 Namaskar Shantanu ji, You asked me to summarise the pdf doc "Antiquity and Origin of the Term 'Hindu'" by Dr. Murlidhar H. Pahoja I sent you via email. Summary: He differs from your point of view regarding Sindhu being corrupted to Hindu.If its the case then Persia should be Perhia.And he also says its Saurashtran practice of pronouncing 'H' in place of 'S'. He also says that the word 'Hidu' can been seen in the inscription of Darius dated between 520-485 B.C. He also says "The Asokan inscriptions (3rd century B.C.)5, repeatedly use expressions like 'Hida' for 'India' and 'Hida loka'for 'Indian nation'." He also quotes from some sanskrit texts about the use of word 'hind'. The chinese used term 'Hien-tu' for 'Hindu' about 100 B.C and Fa-Hien (5th century A.D.) and Huen-Tsang (7th century A.D.)used 'Yintu'. He also quotes some of the ancient arabic poetry where 'Hind' isused for India and 'Hindu' for Indians. I request you to go through the pdf document its a 10 minute read. The link to download the pdf document is sarasvati95.googlepages.com/antiquityhindu.pdf Thanks, Madhu. Namaskar Shantanu ji,

You asked me to summarise the pdf doc “Antiquity and Origin of the Term ‘Hindu’” by Dr. Murlidhar H. Pahoja I sent you via email.

Summary:
He differs from your point of view regarding Sindhu being corrupted to Hindu.If its the case then Persia should be Perhia.And he also says its Saurashtran practice of pronouncing ‘H’ in place of ‘S’.
He also says that the word ‘Hidu’ can been seen in the inscription of Darius dated between 520-485 B.C.
He also says “The Asokan inscriptions (3rd century B.C.)5, repeatedly use expressions like ‘Hida’ for ‘India’ and ‘Hida loka’for ‘Indian nation’.”
He also quotes from some sanskrit texts about the use of word ‘hind’.
The chinese used term ‘Hien-tu’ for ‘Hindu’ about 100 B.C and Fa-Hien (5th century A.D.) and Huen-Tsang (7th century A.D.)used ‘Yintu’.

He also quotes some of the ancient arabic poetry where ‘Hind’ isused for India and ‘Hindu’ for Indians.

I request you to go through the pdf document its a 10 minute read.

The link to download the pdf document is sarasvati95.googlepages.com/antiquityhindu.pdf

Thanks,
Madhu.

]]> By: Ram Chellaram M.D. Ph.D. http://satyameva-jayate.org/2006/05/27/hindu-india-and-bharat-word-origins/comment-page-2/#comment-473245 Ram Chellaram M.D. Ph.D. Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:09:53 +0000 https://hindudharma.wordpress.com/2006/05/27/%e2%80%9chindu%e2%80%9d-india-and-%e2%80%9cbharat%e2%80%9d-the-story-behind-word-origins/#comment-473245 Thank you very much. It is a very good article to ponder. My question is what part did Mohenjo Daro and Harrapa civilization affect Hinduism or how Hinduism affect these civilizations? Please give me some references to go bye. How did Sindh became 90% Muslim population? Thank you very much. It is a very good article to ponder.
My question is what part did Mohenjo Daro and Harrapa civilization affect Hinduism or how Hinduism affect these civilizations?
Please give me some references to go bye.
How did Sindh became 90% Muslim population?

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