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		<title>By: Rajesh Satijaq</title>
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		<description>Colour for Verna, in my view refers to the colouring of the mind, from objective reality to subjective reality. Buddha said I have attained Nibbana (Nibbana is Pali for Nirvana). Nibbana refers (I believe) to his ability to see things from an unconditioned mind, mind free from personality based observation. A person can develop this trait by developing witnessing state of mind..and being in it by will..permanently and thinking is a tool of choice.

Thanks for putting your article online


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colour for Verna, in my view refers to the colouring of the mind, from objective reality to subjective reality. Buddha said I have attained Nibbana (Nibbana is Pali for Nirvana). Nibbana refers (I believe) to his ability to see things from an unconditioned mind, mind free from personality based observation. A person can develop this trait by developing witnessing state of mind..and being in it by will..permanently and thinking is a tool of choice.</p>
<p>Thanks for putting your article online</p>
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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
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		<description>From an email by Premendra Priyadarshi-ji and responses by Bala Aiyer and Dr Gautam Sen*

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&lt;em&gt;Dear Friends,

I have recently uploaded my new article on origin of caste. It is basically a collection of quotes from authorities like Basham 1967 and Srinivas 1967, and also Romila Thapar 2002 (who had a change of mind at the end of her life).

The resoned view of these scholars is that caste and Varna are absolutely unrelated, and no attempt to fuse or confuse the two should be made.
 
I hope this will broaden our information about hisroy of caste.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/52693533/Origin-of-Caste        
 
Post Script:
After reading this artiocle one of my friends asked &quot;Can we ignre the Purusha Sukta?&quot;
Some friends asked about Chandal in pre-Muslim periods.
 
Reply is :
We cannot and should not ignore the Purusha Sukta. That is about Varna. And we are talking about caste here, not varna. Caste is caste. And varna is varna. 
 
Chandal was there at the time of Buddha, and Buddha died after eating uncooked pork at the hand of a Chandal. But authorities opine that Chandal cannot be equated with modern &quot;untouchable&quot; castes. Chandals were often those people who had been excommunicated from society because of some henious crime, like rape or murder etc. Other chandals were those who were excommunicated because they ate dog&#039;s meat etc., or were violent people (Chand =cruel; in Persian Jallad is a cognate of Sanskrit Chandal). 
 
But the untouchable castes of the modern times were untouchable by the reason of birth or heridity. This type of untouchability definitely started after 1000 AD. Basham clearly writes that Huen Tsang had not noted the type of caste system we see today. Megasthanese also has not mentioned such things.


Al-Biruni mentions caste system in Iran during Khusarow&#039;s reign, who made it mandatory for everyone to follow the profession of the caste which one inherited from parents as a result of birth. Old Testament mentions divine orders, if one marries outside caste, one may be killed. Such caste system we never had in India. (Jat Panchayats have although done something like that recently).
 
We need to delink caste with varna in our minds, that is what the quoted scholars want to say. What Purusha Sukta says is about Varna, not caste. 
 
Varna in not compasorily &quot;endogamous&quot; and &quot;heriditary&quot;, whereas &quot;caste&quot; by definition is an &quot;endogamous heriditary&quot; unit of society. Any class is not caste. Otherwise we can say that when we classify towns, we are talking about castes of town. Classes will always be there in all societies at all times. Varna was a term used for class in ancient India. 
 
Manu also does not mention &quot;jati&quot;. To confirm this I went through all the verses of Manusmriti in original. The translations ahve however used the word &quot;cast&quot; for &quot;varna&quot; in English, something which has been considered wrong by Srinivas and Basham, and many more authorities.
 
It is interesting to note that while we get definite caste system only after Muslim arrival in India, such systems had been there in other nations long back. In Iran it had been there for at least since sixth century BC. When did it start in Japan, we do not know, but caste and untouchability persist even today in Japan, Sri Lanka and many other nations.
 
I do not wish to raise any finger on any other country or religion, because if I point one finger to others, the three fingers turn to me. Yet it is important that we should be aware of the fact that caste (especially untouchability ) has existed outside India much before it was noticed in India.
 
See Korean untouchability in this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baekjeong
 
And the famous Burakumin untouchable group in Japan. Caste system was banned in Japan by Meiji in 1871. Yet it exists.
http://www.iheu.org/untouchability-japan-discrimination-against-burakumin
 
http://www.suite101.com/content/burakumin-a88427
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burakumin
 
 
And in Sri Lanka:
http://asiarecipe.com/sricaste.html
 
In Thailand Buddhism, there is a different type of caste system. In that system, they have created a special paid class &quot;Thai Brahmana Priest&quot; who is responsible to perform &#039;sanskaras&#039; in each individual&#039;s life. These Brahmanas perform Vaidic rituals to the Buddhist householdersa, like death rituals etc.
 
http://www.mahidol.ac.th/thailand/brahmans.html
 
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politics/34596/blood-rites-spark-off-holy-row
 
http://cultureandreligionofthailand.blogspot.com/2007/09/kwan-duan-ceremony.html
 
And see how Thai Royal Family patronizes Hindu rituals and Brahmanas
 
http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/chariotgalyani.html
 
I think this is enough for today.&lt;/em&gt;
***
Response by Bala Aiyer 
&lt;em&gt;This is a wonderfull explanation and study of Caste problems.
My own few words on this is as follows.
Varna is often mistaken for Kula and Jaathi and even people who know about this refuse to undertand or accept this
mainly for political purpose and get all the benefits of society in the name of Jaathi and Varna.
60 years of trying to eliminate the Jaathi name has not solved their problem and just got worse.
 
All us know and understand that Varna as in Purushasooktha and in Dharmasastra is different from Jaathi, now called Caste.
Varna is by Guna and in-born desires and ability to do the kind of work in a division of labor. Caste is purely by birth.
 
Before all discussions, we must first understand the Hindu [Indian] Society from ancient times and how they were organized and divided through traditions.
We must read the new genetic theories of the Indian Society which shows that ALL Indians are genetically same, all men carry similar Y Chromosome,
as different from all communities outside India and have two types of female [Mitochondrial DNA distributed all over the sub-continent.
 
Now, the division of society is by: VARNA, JAATHI, KULA, GOTHRA, REGION OF RESIDENCE, SAMPRADHAYA, LANGUAGE [AS MOTHER TONGUE] AND FAMILY TREE.
 Here varna and Jaathi are different. What we are talking about is Brahmana Kula with the few Jaathis in it and NOT Brahmana Varna. [I know I am confusing you].
We have tall people and short people, light colored and dark colored, brilliant and intelligent and dull ones, rich and poor in every group and every state and in every Kula &amp; Jaathi.
While 70% may be poor in SC&amp;ST, about 60% are poor among Brahmins and other &quot;upper Classes&quot; - or even equal. There are more poor ones among Brahmins in this subgroup.
 
The four Varnas are interchangeable by Guna, education and in-born qualities - and not by birth alone. All Varnas are of equal status, not one superior to other.
there was never a fifth [untouchable] but the kings punished some Brahmana and Kshatriya for disobedience. But Kulas go by sampradhaya, traditions and culture. 
Among Jaathis, which is only birth based, we must feel all are of equal status, but within that Jaathi some may be higher than some in status by their education and achievement [individually -not as a family]
 
If you consider all these and feel that you are just equal to all other Indians, there will be no problem. Now, among the various segments of the Brahmana Kula [and jaathis] 
if we all get together for common cause and support, there is nothing wrong with that. 60 years of independence and 100 years of reform movements have not eliminated the Jaathi problems in India
because people did not see this differences and unity at the same time. The problem is some felt superior to others and some felt insulted by that.
If you eliminate that all Jaathis and Kulas can survive well. This is an organization of a society that evolves over centuries and can not be erased.
 
with best regards,&lt;/em&gt;
*** 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/06/26/europe-civilising-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-164576&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Response by Dr Gautam Sen here&lt;/a&gt; 
***
Please note I have not explicitly taken permission from these authors to reproduce their emails. However I believe they make an important contribution to the debate &amp; discussion and hence am taking the liberty of posting them here. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an email by Premendra Priyadarshi-ji and responses by Bala Aiyer and Dr Gautam Sen*</p>
<p>***<br />
<em>Dear Friends,</p>
<p>I have recently uploaded my new article on origin of caste. It is basically a collection of quotes from authorities like Basham 1967 and Srinivas 1967, and also Romila Thapar 2002 (who had a change of mind at the end of her life).</p>
<p>The resoned view of these scholars is that caste and Varna are absolutely unrelated, and no attempt to fuse or confuse the two should be made.</p>
<p>I hope this will broaden our information about hisroy of caste.<br />
<a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/52693533/Origin-of-Caste" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/52693533/Origin-of-Caste</a>        </p>
<p>Post Script:<br />
After reading this artiocle one of my friends asked &#8220;Can we ignre the Purusha Sukta?&#8221;<br />
Some friends asked about Chandal in pre-Muslim periods.</p>
<p>Reply is :<br />
We cannot and should not ignore the Purusha Sukta. That is about Varna. And we are talking about caste here, not varna. Caste is caste. And varna is varna. </p>
<p>Chandal was there at the time of Buddha, and Buddha died after eating uncooked pork at the hand of a Chandal. But authorities opine that Chandal cannot be equated with modern &#8220;untouchable&#8221; castes. Chandals were often those people who had been excommunicated from society because of some henious crime, like rape or murder etc. Other chandals were those who were excommunicated because they ate dog&#8217;s meat etc., or were violent people (Chand =cruel; in Persian Jallad is a cognate of Sanskrit Chandal). </p>
<p>But the untouchable castes of the modern times were untouchable by the reason of birth or heridity. This type of untouchability definitely started after 1000 AD. Basham clearly writes that Huen Tsang had not noted the type of caste system we see today. Megasthanese also has not mentioned such things.</p>
<p>Al-Biruni mentions caste system in Iran during Khusarow&#8217;s reign, who made it mandatory for everyone to follow the profession of the caste which one inherited from parents as a result of birth. Old Testament mentions divine orders, if one marries outside caste, one may be killed. Such caste system we never had in India. (Jat Panchayats have although done something like that recently).</p>
<p>We need to delink caste with varna in our minds, that is what the quoted scholars want to say. What Purusha Sukta says is about Varna, not caste. </p>
<p>Varna in not compasorily &#8220;endogamous&#8221; and &#8220;heriditary&#8221;, whereas &#8220;caste&#8221; by definition is an &#8220;endogamous heriditary&#8221; unit of society. Any class is not caste. Otherwise we can say that when we classify towns, we are talking about castes of town. Classes will always be there in all societies at all times. Varna was a term used for class in ancient India. </p>
<p>Manu also does not mention &#8220;jati&#8221;. To confirm this I went through all the verses of Manusmriti in original. The translations ahve however used the word &#8220;cast&#8221; for &#8220;varna&#8221; in English, something which has been considered wrong by Srinivas and Basham, and many more authorities.</p>
<p>It is interesting to note that while we get definite caste system only after Muslim arrival in India, such systems had been there in other nations long back. In Iran it had been there for at least since sixth century BC. When did it start in Japan, we do not know, but caste and untouchability persist even today in Japan, Sri Lanka and many other nations.</p>
<p>I do not wish to raise any finger on any other country or religion, because if I point one finger to others, the three fingers turn to me. Yet it is important that we should be aware of the fact that caste (especially untouchability ) has existed outside India much before it was noticed in India.</p>
<p>See Korean untouchability in this link:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baekjeong" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baekjeong</a></p>
<p>And the famous Burakumin untouchable group in Japan. Caste system was banned in Japan by Meiji in 1871. Yet it exists.<br />
<a href="http://www.iheu.org/untouchability-japan-discrimination-against-burakumin" rel="nofollow">http://www.iheu.org/untouchability-japan-discrimination-against-burakumin</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.suite101.com/content/burakumin-a88427" rel="nofollow">http://www.suite101.com/content/burakumin-a88427</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burakumin" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burakumin</a></p>
<p>And in Sri Lanka:<br />
<a href="http://asiarecipe.com/sricaste.html" rel="nofollow">http://asiarecipe.com/sricaste.html</a></p>
<p>In Thailand Buddhism, there is a different type of caste system. In that system, they have created a special paid class &#8220;Thai Brahmana Priest&#8221; who is responsible to perform &#8216;sanskaras&#8217; in each individual&#8217;s life. These Brahmanas perform Vaidic rituals to the Buddhist householdersa, like death rituals etc.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mahidol.ac.th/thailand/brahmans.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mahidol.ac.th/thailand/brahmans.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politics/34596/blood-rites-spark-off-holy-row" rel="nofollow">http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politics/34596/blood-rites-spark-off-holy-row</a></p>
<p><a href="http://cultureandreligionofthailand.blogspot.com/2007/09/kwan-duan-ceremony.html" rel="nofollow">http://cultureandreligionofthailand.blogspot.com/2007/09/kwan-duan-ceremony.html</a></p>
<p>And see how Thai Royal Family patronizes Hindu rituals and Brahmanas</p>
<p><a href="http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/chariotgalyani.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/chariotgalyani.html</a></p>
<p>I think this is enough for today.</em><br />
***<br />
Response by Bala Aiyer<br />
<em>This is a wonderfull explanation and study of Caste problems.<br />
My own few words on this is as follows.<br />
Varna is often mistaken for Kula and Jaathi and even people who know about this refuse to undertand or accept this<br />
mainly for political purpose and get all the benefits of society in the name of Jaathi and Varna.<br />
60 years of trying to eliminate the Jaathi name has not solved their problem and just got worse.</p>
<p>All us know and understand that Varna as in Purushasooktha and in Dharmasastra is different from Jaathi, now called Caste.<br />
Varna is by Guna and in-born desires and ability to do the kind of work in a division of labor. Caste is purely by birth.</p>
<p>Before all discussions, we must first understand the Hindu [Indian] Society from ancient times and how they were organized and divided through traditions.<br />
We must read the new genetic theories of the Indian Society which shows that ALL Indians are genetically same, all men carry similar Y Chromosome,<br />
as different from all communities outside India and have two types of female [Mitochondrial DNA distributed all over the sub-continent.</p>
<p>Now, the division of society is by: VARNA, JAATHI, KULA, GOTHRA, REGION OF RESIDENCE, SAMPRADHAYA, LANGUAGE [AS MOTHER TONGUE] AND FAMILY TREE.<br />
 Here varna and Jaathi are different. What we are talking about is Brahmana Kula with the few Jaathis in it and NOT Brahmana Varna. [I know I am confusing you].<br />
We have tall people and short people, light colored and dark colored, brilliant and intelligent and dull ones, rich and poor in every group and every state and in every Kula &#038; Jaathi.<br />
While 70% may be poor in SC&#038;ST, about 60% are poor among Brahmins and other &#8220;upper Classes&#8221; &#8211; or even equal. There are more poor ones among Brahmins in this subgroup.</p>
<p>The four Varnas are interchangeable by Guna, education and in-born qualities &#8211; and not by birth alone. All Varnas are of equal status, not one superior to other.<br />
there was never a fifth [untouchable] but the kings punished some Brahmana and Kshatriya for disobedience. But Kulas go by sampradhaya, traditions and culture.<br />
Among Jaathis, which is only birth based, we must feel all are of equal status, but within that Jaathi some may be higher than some in status by their education and achievement [individually -not as a family]</p>
<p>If you consider all these and feel that you are just equal to all other Indians, there will be no problem. Now, among the various segments of the Brahmana Kula [and jaathis]<br />
if we all get together for common cause and support, there is nothing wrong with that. 60 years of independence and 100 years of reform movements have not eliminated the Jaathi problems in India<br />
because people did not see this differences and unity at the same time. The problem is some felt superior to others and some felt insulted by that.<br />
If you eliminate that all Jaathis and Kulas can survive well. This is an organization of a society that evolves over centuries and can not be erased.</p>
<p>with best regards,</em><br />
***<br />
<a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/06/26/europe-civilising-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-164576" rel="nofollow">Response by Dr Gautam Sen here</a><br />
***<br />
Please note I have not explicitly taken permission from these authors to reproduce their emails. However I believe they make an important contribution to the debate &#038; discussion and hence am taking the liberty of posting them here. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: B Shantanu</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really unfortunate.

From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.indianexpress.com/news/-Rising-casteism-in-Sikh-society-matter-of-concern-/545842&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;Rising casteism in Sikh society matter of concern’&lt;/a&gt;:

...Expressing concern over the decline in Sikh religion due to a number of ills that have cropped in, experts at the 24th annual seminar on ‘Guru Nanak and Origin of Gurdwara Institution’ organised by Guru Nanak Dev University here (Amritsar) on Monday (23rd Nov), said casteism was like plague for Sikh society.

...Prof Rattan Singh Jaggi, delivering the keynote address, said these days people do not follow the ideology of Guru Nanak and his message in our practical life, which was the cause of decline of the religion.

“Gurdwaras were the foundation of the Sikh religion, but we have forgotten the principle of equality. Now the downtrodden and people from so-called lower castes are being forced to build their separate gurdwaras. That is why they are attracted towards deras,” he said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really unfortunate.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.indianexpress.com/news/-Rising-casteism-in-Sikh-society-matter-of-concern-/545842" rel="nofollow">&#8216;Rising casteism in Sikh society matter of concern’</a>:</p>
<p>&#8230;Expressing concern over the decline in Sikh religion due to a number of ills that have cropped in, experts at the 24th annual seminar on ‘Guru Nanak and Origin of Gurdwara Institution’ organised by Guru Nanak Dev University here (Amritsar) on Monday (23rd Nov), said casteism was like plague for Sikh society.</p>
<p>&#8230;Prof Rattan Singh Jaggi, delivering the keynote address, said these days people do not follow the ideology of Guru Nanak and his message in our practical life, which was the cause of decline of the religion.</p>
<p>“Gurdwaras were the foundation of the Sikh religion, but we have forgotten the principle of equality. Now the downtrodden and people from so-called lower castes are being forced to build their separate gurdwaras. That is why they are attracted towards deras,” he said.</p>
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		<title>By: संदीप नारायण शेळके</title>
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		<dc:creator>संदीप नारायण शेळके</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently I happened to have discussion with one my Brahman (By Birth) friend. We debated the Varnas and Hinduism. Here the person was vehemently saying that the Varna is by birth and he will refrain from intercaste marriage as it will degrade his Varna(Though his marriage is a personal affair but mentality can kill the motive of shastra).
We have lots of Bharatiyas who feel this way. whereas there are others too who do not get involved into the discrimination but also make their stand clear by saying that the Varna is decided by Karma and Guna and not by birth. Anyone can be Brahman/Kshatriya if one wish to.

Then I coined the question as per Varnas Brahman should do the job of knowledge giving and earn livelihood by doing Bhikshuki. Also Brahman should not do job under anyone. Kshatriya should only fight, so how come it is not being followed by both so called high Varnas, in todays world?
There he left unanswered. 

My only motive is to bring out the bad in us and change it for the betterment of Bharat. Bharat was never like this before but it will change for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently I happened to have discussion with one my Brahman (By Birth) friend. We debated the Varnas and Hinduism. Here the person was vehemently saying that the Varna is by birth and he will refrain from intercaste marriage as it will degrade his Varna(Though his marriage is a personal affair but mentality can kill the motive of shastra).<br />
We have lots of Bharatiyas who feel this way. whereas there are others too who do not get involved into the discrimination but also make their stand clear by saying that the Varna is decided by Karma and Guna and not by birth. Anyone can be Brahman/Kshatriya if one wish to.</p>
<p>Then I coined the question as per Varnas Brahman should do the job of knowledge giving and earn livelihood by doing Bhikshuki. Also Brahman should not do job under anyone. Kshatriya should only fight, so how come it is not being followed by both so called high Varnas, in todays world?<br />
There he left unanswered. </p>
<p>My only motive is to bring out the bad in us and change it for the betterment of Bharat. Bharat was never like this before but it will change for good.</p>
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		<title>By: Indian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think responsibilities lies on both the parties of different caste towards the society. Its not only the responsibility of upper caste or other caste to think about it. Each party is as much responsible as other to fulfill expectation towards the society.

Though two people may be from different caste or same caste but what is common  in both that can unite them is very important. Today(I am using the word &quot;Today&quot;) caste system can be described as, what I assume is something to do with high and low energy level of the people. Or in other word equal status. 

Because, I have seen discrimination in same caste also. Everyone wants to marry off their daughter/or son in to good family. Why, what happened its the same caste? 

Discrimination comes naturally not thought before. People liked to marry in the same caste because they are well aware of each other&#039;s background, and family values  directly or through other members of the community. First they think safety issue of their daughter and son.

To cite one such example. One boy and girl from same caste liked each other and thought they both are happy with each other. When their parents researched about each other&#039;s family, they found that most of the family members were dropped out of the university and the only girl was doing her graduation. Boy&#039;s family rejected this decision of boy and asked him to rethink. May be their expectation was different. Why this discrimination in same caste? Now the case has becomes more serious and setting a bad example for other people around him when the boy after coming this far himself feels he made a mistake as he is going through some rough time with his wife&#039;s family.(One member of the wife&#039;s family did fraud). Indirectly he suggests parents were right? So different people has different experience. One cannot decide this way is right and this way is wrong. People moves forward by learning their lessons through experience. So its only experiences that guide each of us in our journey not caste system if it is point of marriage. I repeat its equal responsibility of each and every caste towards the society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think responsibilities lies on both the parties of different caste towards the society. Its not only the responsibility of upper caste or other caste to think about it. Each party is as much responsible as other to fulfill expectation towards the society.</p>
<p>Though two people may be from different caste or same caste but what is common  in both that can unite them is very important. Today(I am using the word &#8220;Today&#8221;) caste system can be described as, what I assume is something to do with high and low energy level of the people. Or in other word equal status. </p>
<p>Because, I have seen discrimination in same caste also. Everyone wants to marry off their daughter/or son in to good family. Why, what happened its the same caste? </p>
<p>Discrimination comes naturally not thought before. People liked to marry in the same caste because they are well aware of each other&#8217;s background, and family values  directly or through other members of the community. First they think safety issue of their daughter and son.</p>
<p>To cite one such example. One boy and girl from same caste liked each other and thought they both are happy with each other. When their parents researched about each other&#8217;s family, they found that most of the family members were dropped out of the university and the only girl was doing her graduation. Boy&#8217;s family rejected this decision of boy and asked him to rethink. May be their expectation was different. Why this discrimination in same caste? Now the case has becomes more serious and setting a bad example for other people around him when the boy after coming this far himself feels he made a mistake as he is going through some rough time with his wife&#8217;s family.(One member of the wife&#8217;s family did fraud). Indirectly he suggests parents were right? So different people has different experience. One cannot decide this way is right and this way is wrong. People moves forward by learning their lessons through experience. So its only experiences that guide each of us in our journey not caste system if it is point of marriage. I repeat its equal responsibility of each and every caste towards the society.</p>
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